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Old 05-11-21, 12:28 PM
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Advice on locks for Colorado trip

I'm going to Colorado Springs & Estes Park this summer with the wife and bikes. We would ride to restaurants and such. How bad is bike theft there and what locks would you recommend. I would need to lock together 3 bikes so it will need to be long.

I usually just carry a cheap cable lock for 1 hr stops where I normally ride because bike thefts is pretty rare and almost unheard of if you use any type of lock.
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If you're going to be in downtown CS, there are quite a few bike racks throughout. If on the outlying areas, they are hit and miss. There are many bike paths and bike lanes throughout the city and it's a great place to be a cyclist. I'm sure there are thieves all around the city, but a lock, any lock, might discourage someone from walking off with your bikes during the day and early evening. At night, all bets are off. Estes Park I know nothing about. I grew up in the Springs and my mom and sister still live there but the last time I was in EP, I may have had a on diaper (I'm 53 now). I know a lot of tourists head there and it's a smallish town, but I would still recommend a lock for expended absences from your bikes.
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Thanks Snotrub, sounds a lot like what i'm used too. I read these post on here how people have to lock their bikes up with 3 different locks and wasn't sure what that area is like.

We're staying just west of Colorado Springs at the Buffalo Lodge Bicycle Resort. From there we will ride out to the Garden of the Gods. At Estes Park we will be in downtown. That's where we'll probably ride to everything shopping and eating wise.
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You'll like Garden of the Gods. The roads through the park are very hilly, so be prepared. I think they closed most of the roads that lead to the main trading post, but I'm not sure which ones. I used to rock climb there quite a bit before they shut everything off. I highly recommend the Phantom Canyon Brew pub for lunch or dinner. They were the first micro brewery in town and in my opinion, the best. Enjoy your trip.
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I'd go with any decent U-lock -- Kryptonite, OnGuard or Abus. Those will require a portable grinder or massive bolt cutter to defeat.

Almost any cable can be cut with relatively small cutters, although short handled cutters will require some chewing and gnawing to cut through thicker cables.

I've seen a lot of ultra light locks that supposedly serve as deterrents against opportunistic grab-and-go theft, mostly for cafe stops. But most of those are overpriced relative to the theft deterrence. I don't carry any lock on my carbon fiber road bike rides because I don't leave the bike unattended. If I can't bring it inside, I don't stop or shop there.

On grocery and errand rides I usually pack two U-locks or one U-lock and a cable to thread through the wheels. It's just a deterrent against opportunists with a concealable snipper. I only lock up within sight of the store's front door, so any thief would be pretty obvious. I don't live in an area where people passing by would merely ignore an obvious thief wielding 4-foot-long cutters, or showering the place with sparks from a portable grinder. They'd call a cop, notify the store manager or confront the thief. But there are some cities where thieves operate with impunity as people pass by ignoring the obvious theft.
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
I'd go with any decent U-lock -- Kryptonite, OnGuard or Abus. Those will require a portable grinder or massive bolt cutter to defeat.

Almost any cable can be cut with relatively small cutters, although short handled cutters will require some chewing and gnawing to cut through thicker cables.

I've seen a lot of ultra light locks that supposedly serve as deterrents against opportunistic grab-and-go theft, mostly for cafe stops. But most of those are overpriced relative to the theft deterrence. I don't carry any lock on my carbon fiber road bike rides because I don't leave the bike unattended. If I can't bring it inside, I don't stop or shop there.

On grocery and errand rides I usually pack two U-locks or one U-lock and a cable to thread through the wheels. It's just a deterrent against opportunists with a concealable snipper. I only lock up within sight of the store's front door, so any thief would be pretty obvious. I don't live in an area where people passing by would merely ignore an obvious thief wielding 4-foot-long cutters, or showering the place with sparks from a portable grinder. They'd call a cop, notify the store manager or confront the thief. But there are some cities where thieves operate with impunity as people pass by ignoring the obvious theft.
This is good advice. I would recommend three U-locks and one looong cable (or two or three shorter cables). Make sure the cable(s) run through all frames, and have each bike locked to something stationary (ideally, a rack) at least through its front wheel, which is pretty easy.

Another option is to just buy three U-locks and lock the frames to each other, with the third lock attaching the whole package to a rack. That's tougher to defeat - also cheaper and lighter.

I've had to defeat a few such locks, and even the thick cables are easily cut -- but a good U-lock takes about five minutes with a hacksaw. It can be done more quickly with an angle grinder, but I wouldn't expect that in the locations you're visiting.
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Originally Posted by Razorrock View Post
Thanks Snotrub, sounds a lot like what i'm used too. I read these post on here how people have to lock their bikes up with 3 different locks and wasn't sure what that area is like.

We're staying just west of Colorado Springs at the Buffalo Lodge Bicycle Resort. From there we will ride out to the Garden of the Gods. At Estes Park we will be in downtown. That's where we'll probably ride to everything shopping and eating wise.
You won't have a problem in Estes Park. It's a small tourist town at the entrance to Rocky Mountain Natl. Park, so they take "tourism" pretty seriously..meaning the police are out in force,both on foot and cars, I haven't been there in a while,but i do remember that there was a lot of traffic on the main street,both cars and pedestrians,so keep that in mind when riding there. Expect to see some elk wandering there,especially around where the Stanley Hotel is located.. John

ps- When in Colo Springs,check out Cripple Creek
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Old 05-12-21, 07:54 AM
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I've lived and biked (and bike commuted) here in Colorado Springs for 29 years. I grew up in Chicago, so I always take precautions against bike and car theft, but Colorado Springs isn't Chicago, or even Denver in terms of bike theft...not yet. But still, I wouldn't leave my bikes locked up outside overnight.

Downtown is small and quaint for a city this size, and there are many improperly locked bikes that make easier targets than properly locked bikes. In most parts of town I feel comfortable locking my bike during the day for an hour or two with a thick cable chain through the wheels and frames. I take my bike computer and water bottle with me. Anything that can easily be removed and walked away with by the indigent. If your seats are quick release, make sure you lock those, too.

Central and North are pretty safe. South, near-east and south-east are lower-income and tend to have higher crime as a result, but still, not anything like even medium-sized cities.

My advice is if you are thinking about upgrading your lock...do it. You probably won't need it, but it will bring you peace of mind and help you enjoy your vacation.

By the way, this is goat-head thorn country. You'll need puncture-resistant tires, tire-sealant or tire-liners. I've been running tire-liners for almost 20-years and they made a huge difference! As a daily rider, before tire liners I would flat about twice a month. Since tire protection, maybe 1-2 times a year.

Also, Colorado Springs is about 6500' up (7250' on the north end), Estes Park is 7500'. You may find yourself a little short of breath the first few days. And COVER UP! You'll sunburn faster than you realize (Don't forget your neck.)

I don't know where you are staying, but one other bike option is to leave your bikes in your hotel room and use the Pike Ride bike share bikes to head downtown or over to Old Colorado City. https://www.pikeride.org/
(They have a map of their area of operation.) They're not everybody's style of riding, but they're electric assist, which you may appreciate with the hills here and at our altitude.

Colorado Springs is a fantastic bike town...I'm sure you will enjoy it!

https://www.bikesprings.org/Ride-Resources
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Novara Buzz w/ Xootr rack and bag

What you barely notice velcro-strapped to the top tube of the above bike is a TiGr bow lock. In addition to stowing handily, quickly, and unobtrusively, it’s long enough to secure three bikes together through the frames; I’ve done it often with my family. It’s also light weight and carries silently, without moving and rattling. There is a small cylinder lock which I drop in a pants pocket or bag.

I think it’s great being able to jump on the bike and ride without having to figure out where to put a bulky, awkward lock…let alone multiple bulky, awkward locks.

It’s not inexpensive, but as Ferris Bueller said, “It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly suggest picking one up.”
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I am confused. How will your wife and you ride three bike to restaurants, etc.
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I am confused. How will your wife and you ride three bike to restaurants, etc.
I ghost ride the third just in case one gets stolen

My 10 year old is also with us..
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I ghost ride the third just in case one gets stolen

My 10 year old is also with us..
Why canít he wait outside and watch the bikes?
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Rats... Less than 10 USD even if I carry locks, chains, and cables... What are we gonna do?


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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post

Novara Buzz w/ Xootr rack and bag

What you barely notice velcro-strapped to the top tube of the above bike is a TiGr bow lock. In addition to stowing handily, quickly, and unobtrusively, itís long enough to secure three bikes together through the frames; Iíve done it often with my family. Itís also light weight and carries silently, without moving and rattling. There is a small cylinder lock which I drop in a pants pocket or bag.

I think itís great being able to jump on the bike and ride without having to figure out where to put a bulky, awkward lockÖlet alone multiple bulky, awkward locks.

Itís not inexpensive, but as Ferris Bueller said, ďIt is so choice. If you have the means, I highly suggest picking one up.Ē
Very interesting. I've seen their smaller more "contorted" locks but not this long thing!
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Very interesting. I've seen their smaller more "contorted" locks but not this long thing!
Yeah...this is one of the original Longs, back when they offered only this style, but in two lengths. TiGr still offer the bow today, improved with reinforcements at the lock end, but in only one, Standard length.

https://tigrlock.com/collections/tig...tandard-length

I actually have a super thick, extra short prototype bow which is quite a heavy duty piece, so hefty and inflexible I donít even use it unless Iím locking up somewhere really sketchy.
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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
What you barely notice velcro-strapped to the top tube of the above bike is a TiGr bow lock. In addition to stowing handily, quickly, and unobtrusively, itís long enough to secure three bikes together through the frames; Iíve done it often with my family. Itís also light weight and carries silently, without moving and rattling. There is a small cylinder lock which I drop in a pants pocket or bag.

I think itís great being able to jump on the bike and ride without having to figure out where to put a bulky, awkward lockÖlet alone multiple bulky, awkward locks.

Itís not inexpensive, but as Ferris Bueller said, ďIt is so choice. If you have the means, I highly suggest picking one up.Ē
Impressive - 15 ounces for the .75-inch-wide version (no longer on TiGr's web site) and 24 ounces for the 1.25-inch-wide model. $175 is a lot though.

I once tried to drill a hole through a thin, light-weight titanium tube using a steel bit in a bench-mounted drill press. It was tough. I eventually got through the thin-wall titanium tube but my steel drill bit melted. I was very impressed.
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Yeah...this is one of the original Longs, back when they offered only this style, but in two lengths. TiGr still offer the bow today, improved with reinforcements at the lock end, but in only one, Standard length.

https://tigrlock.com/collections/tig...tandard-length

I actually have a super thick, extra short prototype bow which is quite a heavy duty piece, so hefty and inflexible I donít even use it unless Iím locking up somewhere really sketchy.
Oh, I wondered about length as I saw mention of different lengths but I guess they moved to ONE length. I might have missed it but I did not see dimensions - just STANDARD.

Seems a number of their videos were filmed here in Seattle although I think on their website, the address is NJ??
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Colorado Springs is remarkably shady. Hoods just about everywhere. I actually don't trust the people around to stay out of my car if I run in at the gas station.

Lots of really great people in that city, but the scuz element is extremely high. I definitely feel safer in Denver and Pueblo. I work in the Springs but commute.

Your only decent option is to eat at a place with an outdoor patio and sit next to your bike. People do this all the time there so it's not weird.
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