ridelikeaturtle

I really should not be surprised at the level of disingenuous & bad faith responses on BF. My fault.

See you all in 6 months. I'll get my coat.

I-Like-To-Bike

Are you saying people in Texas would describe this "ambiguous lane count street" with no lane markings as a "four lane road"? Really?

Or is that like some people describing a one sided report of a honking - nasty language incident (with vague to no information about the actions of the reporting party) as "Buzzing", "hateful people", "Drivers like this are eventually going to kill someone", "could have caused a crash", "bullying and intimidation with a motor vehicle" even though there is no evidence of such offered by the OP, because those hyperbolic descriptions and fabricated scenarios add some drama to the incident and fits the agenda of the people anxious to make a "report" on other people.

robertorolfo

How fast do people drive on that road? Anything over 45 seems pretty insane. Likewise, anyone undertaking (passing on the right) there is an absolute moron.

It's really just a couple of people. No need to leave, as your perspective is one of the most reasonable and objective here.

How would you describe it?

I-Like-To-Bike

A city street with a curb lane that is often used for legal street side parking; a four lane street with legal street side parking would have approximately 22 feet more in width.

Gravel Rider

Well, its been a week. Is there an APB out on the suspect?

I-Like-To-Bike

Or the OP being found to clear up his report for inquiring minds.

flangehead

I only speak for myself and I’m not saying this is a four-lane street. I was talking to a City of Houston engineer about a similar street and I didn’t get the sense that they know how to describe it. (The concrete of 44 feet, 4 x 11 lanes no parking in a 60 ft ROW is commonly used for 40 mph posted arterial.)

They used same concrete for neighborhood streets, Paint and signs have some effect, but the concrete whispers “drive fast and pass anything slowing you down”. A lot of these streets now have speed bumps.

I-Like-To-Bike

For some reason I think the OP has had second thoughts about initiating a "report" about the "suspect".
See Central Park Karen
This possible reason for hesitancy was brought to my attention by watching a couple of late night comedian monologues on Wednesday night.
The videos are on YouTube but because the entire monologues have much P&R content I suggest only the relevant time sequence for anyone who wishes to watch some humorous takes on so-called "Karen" type over reactions to alleged threats, rudeness and slights.

Note substitute youtube for yt in the referenced URLs
Stephan Colbert monologue https://www.yt.com/watch?v=VpbqSsHT5Fc
2021-10-26 7:50 - 8:30

Jimmy Kimmel monologue https://www.yt.com/watch?v=zjLEGMxvJL0&t=656s
2021-10-26 5:30 - 6:50 where he suggests that the male version of a "Karen" type could be nicknamed after a well known news commentator.

Riveting

Snitches get stitches!

robertorolfo

Um, what? First, off, that isn't a city street. Not even close. Second, I've never heard the expression "cub lane," so that's not helping, and in general your description is a fairly useless mouthful.

If anything is parked in a lane, that lane isn't suitable for traffic, so the road above would be a 2-lane road (one in either direction).

That comparison pretty much says all we need to know about your mindset. If you think the two things are in any way comparable, there is really little hope in getting through to you.

(Also, for those that aren't up on their local NYC goings on, it has since been fairly well established that the guy who made that video is a jerk that enjoys causing trouble and provoking people. The sentiment now seems to be one of sympathy for the woman in the video, who seems to have some issues she needs to deal with.)

This one silly expression, which reveals a mentality as ignorant as it is overly simplistic, has probably done immeasurably more harm than it could ever have done good.

truthseeker14

I reported it via the City's web site, but I found out later that it was only for complaints regarding police officers.

Daniel4

If you know the specific department that vehicle belongs, I'm sure you can write an e-mail directly to that department.

In Toronto, the city has a 311 service in which you can write anything related to city problems.
Or if you know your elected city representative, you can write your complaint to him or her. He/she has an incentive to resolve your issue to your satisfaction.

I-Like-To-Bike

OK, call it a road. I agree it is NOT 4 lanes. As far as curb lane, read the OP. A 4 lane road would have 2 lanes available for traffic each way. There is no reason for anyone to ride in the left lane of a 4 lane road in order to stay out of the door zone of legally parked cars in the curb lane on a 4 lane road/street.

What video and sympathetic "Karen in Central Park" are you talking about? Are you seriously referring to the dingbat who called 911 to make false claims about the birdwatcher and that she is a some sort of victim? No wonder you make the posts about "mindsets" that you do.

truthseeker14

OP here. I do get into the right lane whenever I can and get in to and out of the left lane as necessary. I'd say i hug the curb too much and rarely take up the whole lane. Actually this stretch of the street was subject of a traffic calming road diet that purposefully allows parking on the curb lane in order to go from two lanes to one lane of traffic. Before the diet, there were two lanes of traffic for the rush hour side (no parking allowed on the curb lane). When the guy started honking, there were cars parked directly to my right on the curb lane.

I-Like-To-Bike

Thanks for clarifying.

Would it be accurate to describe the street at the point of the incident as two lanes each way, consisting of one curb (right) lane where vehicles were parked and one traffic (left) lane which is the only lane at that location where vehicles (bicycles or motor vehicles) can legally travel?

truthseeker14

Good question. I'm not sure how it would be legally characterized (2 lane or 4 lane), but parking is allowed on both of the curb lanes where the incident occurred. If no cars are parked on the curb lane, then a car may travel in that lane. And whether it's legally described as a 2 lane or 4 lane road is not just an academic question. In my state, (Ohio), for four lane roads, opposite direction traffic does not have to stop for a stopped school bus with it's red flashing lights. (Same direction traffic has to stop of course.) So if parking is allowed on both curb lanes for a four lane road, does opposite direction traffic have to stop? The last time I looked, this is not addressed in our state's driver's handbook.

jconti13

Definitely report.

truthseeker14

Update. Well I reported it. I couldn't figure out what department to send it to, so I sent it to a Cincinnati councilman who has been an advocate for traffic safety where the incident had occurred. He got back to me and expressed his regret that this happened and said he would pass this on to the right group.

Not sure if I'll find out if there will be any consequences for the driver, but if I do, i'll update this thread. Thanks everybody for the spirited thread.

Daniel4

Good luck.

robertorolfo

Sorry for the late reply, but you aren't in NY and don't seem to be apprised of more recent developments in this story. It has since come out that the guy who filmed the video is well known to the local community, and not well liked. He has a history of provoking people and creating incidents for attention. It has also come to light that the woman in the video has some personal issues. So this was mere a case of a trouble maker pulling his stunt on someone that was particularly vulnerable and volatile.

sloppy12

I was going to suggest city council or mayors office. they will be the most likely to take your concerns seriously. They may even follow up with you.

GhenghisKahn

Q: Should I report this city employee?

A: Definitely.