To buy a garmin or not?
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Cool thing about the garmin is that if you ride on the same route frequently, you can download the data to your computer and it will show you exactly on a map where you rode and lets you compare your rides. Some days I want to know how quick I went up a certain section compared to my previous ride and what my heart rate and cadence for that certain part of the ride is. Great tool for training IMO. Another cool feature is that you can load your previous ride and race against yourself. Lets you know if your ahead or falling back. I have the Edge 705 btw. So many features, its insane! Hell yeah its expensive, but dont regret buying one.
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The Edge 500 with heart rate and cadence runs $250-$300 depending on what sort of sales deal you can get.
Used early Cycleops Powertaps built into wheels can be found for $250 with computer, download cable, and heart rate transmitter. That's somewhere between even with the Garmin and $50 less. Used Edge 500s aren't really any cheaper than new ones which are on sale. While the Little Yellow Computer isn't as sexy as a Garmin, it provides information on anaerobic intervals which you can't get from heart rate.
New 2011 Powertap Comp hubs with computer, harness, and download cable can be found for about $540 and you'll spend $40 for the heart rate strap. Assuming you were going to buy the Garmin or some other downloadable computer and build a wheel on a half decent hub (ex: Ultegra 6700, about $120 from the UK). That's $160-$210 more.
In between you can get used Powertap SL wired and Comp setups for $350 which is $50-$100 more than the Garmin. Advantages over the older hubs are that Saris still re-builds these, they can be converted for Campagnolo use, and they weigh less.
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Used early Cycleops Powertaps built into wheels can be found for $250 with computer, download cable, and heart rate transmitter.
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got my garmin edge 500, for around 170 british pounds, including hr and cadence, havent used on the road yet, but becoming very useful for indoor training
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Wheels are almost always your best bike upgrade, but I've had a Garmin 305 for years, and just got a 800. So far I like the 800, the 500 seems like a great unit if you don't want the mapping.
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i have noo need for the mapping, i know all the roads i train on, is the 800 much bigger than the 500?
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As for computers. I own a Sigma BC1606L $60 and a Cateye Strada $100. The Sigma is pretty good and the Cateye is a battery pig that randomly stops receiving a couple of times an hour.
So all toll I`ve spent about $360 on computers and HR monitors none of which uploads data to a computer. I think going the cheap route be approaching $200.
Retail an edge 500 is $399 with both HR and cadence sensor, $299 without. Your suggestion would not be ANT+ compatible so were the OP to save for a powermeter the cheaper solution would need to be completely replaced whereas a Garmin appears to compliment an upgrade to power.
For those who have the Edge 500, although it has no on screen mapping does it upload mapping and route information to the computer for reference?
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IMO this may not be the best solution. I own a Polar RS 200. New it cost me $200. Current value is $0 because polar put the battery under the electronics so that only an authorized polar repair shop can change a battery. 267 miles to the nearest authorized shop. Yes I could mail it but they don`t answer their email so my HR monitor is in the drawer.
As for computers. I own a Sigma BC1606L $60 and a Cateye Strada $100. The Sigma is pretty good and the Cateye is a battery pig that randomly stops receiving a couple of times an hour.
So all toll I`ve spent about $360 on computers and HR monitors none of which uploads data to a computer. I think going the cheap route be approaching $200.
Retail an edge 500 is $399 with both HR and cadence sensor, $299 without. Your suggestion would not be ANT+ compatible so were the OP to save for a powermeter the cheaper solution would need to be completely replaced whereas a Garmin appears to compliment an upgrade to power.
For those who have the Edge 500, although it has no on screen mapping does it upload mapping and route information to the computer for reference?
As for computers. I own a Sigma BC1606L $60 and a Cateye Strada $100. The Sigma is pretty good and the Cateye is a battery pig that randomly stops receiving a couple of times an hour.
So all toll I`ve spent about $360 on computers and HR monitors none of which uploads data to a computer. I think going the cheap route be approaching $200.
Retail an edge 500 is $399 with both HR and cadence sensor, $299 without. Your suggestion would not be ANT+ compatible so were the OP to save for a powermeter the cheaper solution would need to be completely replaced whereas a Garmin appears to compliment an upgrade to power.
For those who have the Edge 500, although it has no on screen mapping does it upload mapping and route information to the computer for reference?
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Get the garmin and start saving for a powertap wheel to go with it. In the US, you can get both for just under $1,000 new. By the way, you don't really need the cadence sensor if you have a powertap wheel, so you can save some Money on the Garmin by buying the basic package and getting a heartrate strap. If new is out of the question because of the $, I'd agree with some of the others and look for a used PT and skip the garmin for now. My powermeter is by far the most valuable thing I've bought to help me improve on the bike (read the book referenced above). Wheels, carbon bike, etc. are not even close. Opinions vary of course.
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Will a Garmin Edge pick up a polar heart rate strap or are they coded differently?
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The newer Polar and Garmin heart rate straps have two components; the transmitter puck that snaps on the strap, and the strap itself. The Garmin puck will fit both the Polar and Garmin (of course) strap and will work with the Edge. The Polar transmitter WILL NOT work...it will fit both straps, but since it is not ANT+ compatible you cannot use it with the Garmin Edge.
The newest Garmin strap is very much like the Polar Wearlink+ strap...
The newest Garmin strap is very much like the Polar Wearlink+ strap...
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Where might I find a built powertap elite+ wheel for only $690? (assuming built means without tube/tire/cassette)
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Depends on how much you would need the gps/mapping feature.
If not that much, then go for a Polar computer with HR and cadence sensors. You will get very accurate data readings and a much longer battery life. You can upload your data to the Polar training website, where you can compose training plans and analyze your progress. In addition the Polars just look much cooler in my view ;-). (I have the diamond shaped Polar, but several other models are good as well.)
ps. very nice bike!
If not that much, then go for a Polar computer with HR and cadence sensors. You will get very accurate data readings and a much longer battery life. You can upload your data to the Polar training website, where you can compose training plans and analyze your progress. In addition the Polars just look much cooler in my view ;-). (I have the diamond shaped Polar, but several other models are good as well.)
ps. very nice bike!