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Old 07-13-22, 12:44 PM
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I was never a fan of silver or black bikes but damn this Cinelli is gorgeous
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I was never a fan of silver or black bikes but damn this Cinelli is gorgeous
Thanks malcala622, I appreciate it.

The silver was my second choice; it was all the shop had in my size. I would have preferred the Laser Blue, thinking it would set off the chrome lugs better. But now that I've had it a few years, it's sorta grown on me a bit...Reading that it might have been the preferred color for earlier Cinelli's helped ease my mind a little too.

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Originally Posted by malcala622
I was never a fan of silver or black bikes but damn this Cinelli is gorgeous
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Thanks malcala622, I appreciate it.

The silver was my second choice; it was all the shop had in my size. I would have preferred the Laser Blue, thinking it would set off the chrome lugs better. But now that I've had it a few years, it's sorta grown on me a bit...Reading that it might have been the preferred color for earlier Cinelli's helped ease my mind a little too.
Celeste is never wrong for a Reparto Corsa Bianchi. Red is never wrong for a De Rosa. Molteni orange with blue panels is never wrong for a Merckx. That odd shade of green is never wrong for a Legnano. White is never wrong for a 1970s PX-10.

And silver is never wrong for a Cinelli SC.
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
Celeste is never wrong for a Reparto Corsa Bianchi. Red is never wrong for a De Rosa. Molteni orange with blue panels is never wrong for a Merckx. That odd shade of green is never wrong for a Legnano. White is never wrong for a 1970s PX-10.

And silver is never wrong for a Cinelli SC.
Thanks bikingshearer. I appreciate and definitely enjoy the color today. I hope that’s apparent in the way I’ve chosen to accent it.
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
Gorgeous bike! I also have an ‘89 in blue. I’m an Italo and Campyphile but have no problem with hanging Dura Ace on one. At least your tires are Italian (and my favorite). Mine has mid 90’s Campy 8 speed kit. The late 80’s Supercorsas we’re built by Mario Camilotto. Always nice to know the name of the guy who built your frame.

Cinelli Only: Mario Camilotto
Erminio Chirico also built Cinellis, directly under Andreas Cinelli, from about 1970 until leaving in 1984 to produce forks under a process patented in 1984 (For many Italian brands). Some brevet and North American market SC's were built at the Chirico factory, in Bussero on the outskirts of Milan. Sounds like Camilotto came in right after Erminio left, Erminio "apprenticed" for 14 years.

Enrico Chirico would be a bit older than Cino Cinelli, and his son Erminio would be a bit older than Andrea Cinelli. Luigi Chirico took over in 1987.

Always wanted a Chirico bike.

My '89 SC was not a favorite, but my '91 was a cream-colored beauty, now owned by "Colnago John" Barron. (For all I know, he already flipped it.)
I like the silver color, have the Chirico-made Equipe, but have always coveted the China Blue. Someday, perhaps, in a 54cm.

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Originally Posted by bamboobike4
Sounds like Camilotto came in right after Erminio left, Erminio "apprenticed" for 14 years.
One on-line Cinelli timeline I've seen says Mario built frames from 1988 - 1991. Another timeline says he built every Supercorsa from 1978 to the early 1990s.
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Nice Cinelli, but why didn't you use Campa?
And what other bicycles do you have?
Thank you.
I only have one bike. I first got into bikes in the mid-1980s, and at that time, Dura Ace was functionally far superior to Campy, because of their two-year head start in index shifting. When I built the bike 20 years ago Dura Ace was still functionally and aesthetically (to me) better than Campy. I do like some vintage Campy, like Croce D’aune, but those parts aren’t top-of-the-line, like Dura Ace.
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An artifact from my Paramount days. Also DA equipped.

Oooh, yeah, that was never going to happen. Suntour was always third-class in my book.
Why is "your book" always wrong?
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...I have a Richard Sachs frame that was built to order for someone at the Toga Bike shop in NYC, so early 70's.
I got it used, as a frame, from a local guy here. I built it out with Suntour mostly, but nobody I knew then was really into "full groupsets".

So I just used what I remembered works well and was sort of period correct.

It's a mistake to conflate the price of components from this era (early 70's), with either quality or functionality.
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Why is "your book" always wrong?
What an intelligent and witty response!

Sun Tour has their fans. But obviously they were never No. 1 or No. 2 when I got into bikes. No matter what “book” you choose to read.
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What an intelligent and witty response!

Sun Tour has their fans. But obviously they were never No. 1 or No. 2 when I got into bikes. No matter what “book” you choose to read.
there was a guy I raced against that avoided Campagnolo AND Shimano on principle.
Suntour, Sugino, tange, SR bar and stem, a few Zeus components, Weinmann 500 brakes, you get the idea. Would have been better had he cleaned his bike more often.
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Originally Posted by repechage
Would have been better had he cleaned his bike more often.
Lol!!

I get what you’re saying. Sun Tour did have some nice looking stuff (even if they didn’t make all of it). Oh..and we can’t forget their contribution to rear derailleur design…
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But currently it's vinyl, which is pretty easy to clean with windex or any number of cleaners, because of its relatively smooth, non-tacky surface. Rubber seems so much harder to keep clean.

Honestly I don't have them yet--it's possible they are dry rotted and unusable. But I am keeping my fingers crossed! They look decent in the photos, but you know how that goes.
Replaced the black hoods with the white. Holy crap, it was hard to remove the original black ones! Got them off without tearing them so I can use them down the road.
I saw a GCN video that recommended using hand gel to reinstall the hoods; I used ArmorAll just as effectively and probably better for the rubber.
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Originally Posted by Ago15
Nice Cinelli, but why didn't you use Campa?
And what other bicycles do you have?
Wait, you went and dug up this thread to troll his bike build?

For how far above us you claim to be, you sure like to play in the mud.

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Well, I missed the June/silver bike thread by a few days, but I thought I'd share a few photos of my bike. 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa with full Dura Ace 7400/7700 components. The pedals, seatpost, stem and brake levers are 7400. Most all bolts and the rear axle have been replaced with titanium versions, or aluminum if I had the choice (e.g., the water bottle bolts). I get that some people will think its sacrilege to put Japanese parts on an Italian frame. But hey, it's got Campy dropouts! My love of lettering/logos even extended to the bar end plugs! Wish I was a better photographer.
Beautiful bike, well done! Love all the details and the silver and chrome really play off each other very nicely too. Those little details will go unnoticed by most but it's fun when building a bike up to spend the time and make it your own.

I do not think it is sacrilegious at all to put Japanese components on Italian frames. It was done all the time back in the day due to the quality of their components. I did it myself many times with both Dura-Ace and Superbe Pro. Are you running this as a 7-speed?
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Originally Posted by smd4
What an intelligent and witty response!

Sun Tour has their fans. But obviously they were never No. 1 or No. 2 when I got into bikes. No matter what “book” you choose to read.
I removed a full Superbe Pro 8-speed group from my Zullo and a 7400/7700 Dura-Ace 8-speed group from my Tesch - both replaced with 11-speed Campy for daily use.

With both groups having DT shifters, I felt that the Superbe Pro was just a smidge smoother in engagement than the DA, IMHO. The brakes likewise had just slightly better modulation and feel than the DA.

Both groups were jewel-like in finish, and depending on the component and your own sense of design, were equal in my opinion.

Now just need to find that special frame(s) to hang these parts on...
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Originally Posted by BMC_Kid
Beautiful bike, well done! Love all the details and the silver and chrome really play off each other very nicely too. Those little details will go unnoticed by most but it's fun when building a bike up to spend the time and make it your own.

I do not think it is sacrilegious at all to put Japanese components on Italian frames. It was done all the time back in the day due to the quality of their components. I did it myself many times with both Dura-Ace and Superbe Pro. Are you running this as a 7-speed?
Thanks BMC_Kid. Except for the odd 7400 parts, it's 9-speed 7700.
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I did say that it is a nice bike or not ?
You did--thank you.
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I also have Shimano in my inventory...
Have you built up any bikes with Shimano parts?
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Originally Posted by smd4
Replaced the black hoods with the white. Holy crap, it was hard to remove the original black ones! Got them off without tearing them so I can use them down the road.
So after a couple years searching for NOS 7402 brake hoods, improbably a set in white came up, and as noted above, after a bit of a struggle, I installed them this past weekend. This is what they look like:



The black ones will be stored for use another day--maybe when I get sick of cleaning the white ones! But for now, the whites add the final splash of '80s glam to the bike. I still have two different brands of leather tape, which I may install this winter when there isn't anything else to do.
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It's crying out for white finishing tape there..... although I'm sure you scoured the earth to find that Cinelli logo black tape
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It's crying out for white finishing tape there..... although I'm sure you scoured the earth to find that Cinelli logo black tape
Like hen’s teeth, I’m tellin’ ya!
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Originally Posted by Ago15
As you did it is cheap.
This is more serious...
How very kind of you to say.

But I think that saddle and bar covering looks like absolute $h*t, sort of like plucked chicken skin. I'm also not running bivalent hubs or Cinelli clipless pedals. Not everything Cinelli did was a home run.
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