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Old 06-12-16, 04:11 PM
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Not sure if this has been posted yet... anybody in a position to rescue this one?

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/5590964250.html
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
One heck of a build, and one of those you take a look at as you ride up, and realize that passing this bike may not be the best idea.
The build level is often a dead giveaway of a serious rider.
Thanks! Not sure how serious I am, but I will using it in a triathlon sprint next weekend. This has been a bucket list item for a couple of years so when the frame popped up I figured I might as well go C/V. I'm not a swimmer so I don't expect to be competitive. But damn I'm going to look good on the bike!
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Originally Posted by ApolloSoyuz1975
Not sure if this has been posted yet... anybody in a position to rescue this one?

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/5590964250.html

There are so many things wrong with it..please some save the MV!
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Originally Posted by ApolloSoyuz1975
Not sure if this has been posted yet... anybody in a position to rescue this one?

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/5590964250.html
Rescue is the first word that comes to mind. Still proves you can make an Ironman into anything and install a kickstand.

Here's one in Texas. Exactly my size. However not my price, which is currently has to be free or I'm not buying it.
VTG CENTURION Black "Dave Scott" Road Bike
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I"ll take a look at the one in Richmond. There is/was also a red and white one in RVA that was even worse.
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this deserves a larger print- "Don't think, Feel..."

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I bought 56 cm Miami Vice frameset off ebay quite a while ago and it has been sitting in my room ever since. I'm finally finding some spare time and starting to build it up with the Shimano 105 groupset that I had laying around. The cassette that I have is in pretty bad shape (see below) and I'm not going to bother with overhauling it. I plan on buying a new Shimano cassette and I was wondering if the 1050 shifter is going to work with a 7- or 8-speed cassette. If I remember correctly, the Miami Vice has a 6-speed cassette, RD, and DT shifter. I'm mostly building it to ride to work and I'm thinking a 7-speed 12-28 should work (that's the setup I have for my current daily anyway) or 12-31 might even be better since I live in a hilly area.

I'm looking at this:

https://www.amazon.com/Shimano-CS-HG...ssette+7+speed

and this:

https://www.amazon.com/Shimano-Speed...ssette+7+speed

I just gotta find out if they would work with the 1050 groupset before I buy one.


There is also an area on the top tube where the clear coat is almost nonexistant. Is there a way to apply a layer of clear coat to protect the paint and also restore the glossiness?

Lastly, I'm also looking for a shorter reach stem to put on this bike, preferably 60 mm. Let me know what you got!


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Thanks in advance!

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Your 105 derailleurs will actually work very well with, up to, and including a 10 speed system if you are using the correct friction front and index rear down tube shifters. Never tried it with STI's, but in theory at least the rear one should be OK.

A standard 105 series 1050 RD will handle up to a 28 tooth rear cog on an Ironman frame; to use a larger rear cog I'd suggest using one of the many Deore RD's out there, particularly the 600 and 700 series ones that go well cosmetically with 105 pieces.
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That is a freewheel, not a cassette. Good looking Ironman. Is the seatpost stuck or just lowered down into the seat tube for movement?

clearcoat could be something to do but I will let the paint experts chime in for the definitive response.
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Congratulations, WOW nice looking Miami Vice. Definitely worth any investment you put into it. I have a shorter stem that is black, it's yours if you want it. Pm me.
That is a screw on freewheel not a cassette. So if you're gonna use the same wheels you'll need a freewheel removal tool and a screw on freewheel instead of the cassette type you posted from amazon. And a 7 speed will definitely work however you will have to put it in friction mode not SIS on the down tube shifters if the shifters are 6 speed. Keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by zs3889
I bought 56 cm Miami Vice frameset off ebay quite a while ago and it has been sitting in my room ever since. I'm finally finding some spare time and starting to build it up with the Shimano 105 groupset that I had laying around. The cassette that I have is in pretty bad shape (see below) and I'm not going to bother with overhauling it. I plan on buying a new Shimano cassette and I was wondering if the 1050 shifter is going to work with a 7- or 8-speed cassette. If I remember correctly, the Miami Vice has a 6-speed cassette, RD, and DT shifter. I'm mostly building it to ride to work and I'm thinking a 7-speed 12-28 should work (that's the setup I have for my current daily anyway) or 12-31 might even be better since I live in a hilly area.

I'm looking at this:

https://www.amazon.com/Shimano-CS-HG...ssette+7+speed

and this:

https://www.amazon.com/Shimano-Speed...ssette+7+speed

As others have already said, you need a freewheel for that hub, not a cassette. I have a Shimano freewheel (not cassette) with 13 15 17 19 21 24 28 teeth. I bought it new February 19th of this year and used it through April, so it's almost new. Interested? I'm in Manhattan.

By the way, are you planning to have the chainwheels on the left side of the bike?
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7 speed freewheels are still very easy to find cheaply. Shimano still makes them in the range you need. If you cruise eBay, 7 speed shifters come up from time to time. Create a search then save it to get updates. I have found old shifters as part of a group or incomplete group, often from people who are just resellers and don't know what they have. They can be pricy given their age. Or you can just go 7s friction.

If you're mostly commuting, you can get a new 6s 14-28 freewheel for cheap. I would spring for a 38t chainring to get a bit lower gearing and you're good to go - nice even spacing in the FW. Think about the last time you really needed that 12t sprocket... Unless you're in beast mode I'm guessing you'll likely spend most of you're time in the 52 and the 16t or 18t sprockets on the flats.
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Thanks for all your amazing responses and offers! I actually posted some photos on here when I first got the frame but never had the spare time to really sit down and build it up.


Originally Posted by rccardr
A standard 105 series 1050 RD will handle up to a 28 tooth rear cog on an Ironman frame; to use a larger rear cog I'd suggest using one of the many Deore RD's out there, particularly the 600 and 700 series ones that go well cosmetically with 105 pieces.
I'm hoping to keep 105 RD as well so if it won't work with anything above 28 tooth, I'll just stick with 28 as my largest rear cog.


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That is a freewheel, not a cassette. Good looking Ironman. Is the seatpost stuck or just lowered down into the seat tube for movement?
Thanks for the correction. I can never remember the difference between the two. The seatpost is not stuck. In fact, it's the opposite of stuck. It's all greased up so it doesn't have any friction to the seat tube and just slides to the bottom.


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Congratulations, WOW nice looking Miami Vice. Definitely worth any investment you put into it. I have a shorter stem that is black, it's yours if you want it. Pm me.
That is a screw on freewheel not a cassette. So if you're gonna use the same wheels you'll need a freewheel removal tool and a screw on freewheel instead of the cassette type you posted from amazon. And a 7 speed will definitely work however you will have to put it in friction mode not SIS on the down tube shifters if the shifters are 6 speed. Keep us posted.
Thanks for your offer! I'm hoping to keep the stem, handlebar, and seatpost in silver but I'll definitely hit you up if I change my mind! So you're saying in order to pair the 105 shifter and RD I have with a 7 speed freewheel, I'll have to operate it in friction mode? Is that because the shifter has only up to 6 clicks?


Originally Posted by johnlink
As others have already said, you need a freewheel for that hub, not a cassette. I have a Shimano freewheel (not cassette) with 13 15 17 19 21 24 28 teeth. I bought it new February 19th of this year and used it through April, so it's almost new. Interested? I'm in Manhattan.

By the way, are you planning to have the chainwheels on the left side of the bike?
Thanks for the offer! I'll shoot you a pm. Good catch. I thought that photo looked a little weird until I realized I had put the rear wheel incorrectly. It was only for the photo though.


Originally Posted by mountaindave
7 speed freewheels are still very easy to find cheaply. Shimano still makes them in the range you need. If you cruise eBay, 7 speed shifters come up from time to time. Create a search then save it to get updates. I have found old shifters as part of a group or incomplete group, often from people who are just resellers and don't know what they have. They can be pricy given their age. Or you can just go 7s friction.

If you're mostly commuting, you can get a new 6s 14-28 freewheel for cheap. I would spring for a 38t chainring to get a bit lower gearing and you're good to go - nice even spacing in the FW. Think about the last time you really needed that 12t sprocket... Unless you're in beast mode I'm guessing you'll likely spend most of you're time in the 52 and the 16t or 18t sprockets on the flats.
Thanks for the suggestion. Like I said, I live in a hilly area so my daily commute is barely (~20%) on flats. I'm in the 42 (front) all the time with larger sprocket going uphill and smaller sprocket going downhill (12-28). I'm thinking 6 speed 14-28 should work. I much prefer index shifting than friction for rear derailleur.
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Originally Posted by zs3889
Thanks for your offer! I'm hoping to keep the stem, handlebar, and seatpost in silver but I'll definitely hit you up if I change my mind! So you're saying in order to pair the 105 shifter and RD I have with a 7 speed freewheel, I'll have to operate it in friction mode? Is that because the shifter has only up to 6 clicks?

Thanks for the suggestion. Like I said, I live in a hilly area so my daily commute is barely (~20%) on flats. I'm in the 42 (front) all the time with larger sprocket going uphill and smaller sprocket going downhill (12-28). I'm thinking 6 speed 14-28 should work. I much prefer index shifting than friction for rear derailleur.
Yes, assuming the shifters are 6 speed, you'll have to use friction mode for 7 speed.

Nothing wrong with keeping it 6 speed. In fact that freewheel may clean up nice with WD 40 and a toothbrush however I believe that's a 13-24 tooth. At which point you can assess if you need to order a new screw on 6 speed SIS compatible freewheel with those shifters or get a set of 7 speed shifters and a 7 speed screw on freewheel to keep the index shifting.

Have fun and good luck.
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Make sure you have the correct size seatpost. It is a 27.0mm.

Originally Posted by zs3889
The seatpost is not stuck. In fact, it's the opposite of stuck. It's all greased up so it doesn't have any friction to the seat tube and just slides to the bottom.
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Originally Posted by rjhammett
Make sure you have the correct size seatpost. It is a 27.0mm.
Yes true, however 3 of the 5 I have are 27.2 seatpost with no problems.
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Here's the big brother to the Ironman. And my favorite color Ironman as we've seen at least one Ironman in this color scheme. I can't make out the size though. Possibly a 56. Either way more than fair price.
Vintage Centurion Prestige Road Bike Bicycle
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Interesting. I have owned three '87 'Miami Vices' and they were all 27.0. A 27.2 wouldn't fit in any of them.

Originally Posted by texaspandj
Yes true, however 3 of the 5 I have are 27.2 seatpost with no problems.
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Originally Posted by zs3889
Thanks for the offer! I'll shoot you a pm.
Here is the full list of Suntour parts I will be selling, all of which were original parts on my Centurion Ironman and now replaced with Dura Ace components:

brake levers and hoods
hub on Mavic front wheel with skewer (bearings replaced late 2015 or early 2016)
rear hub and skewer (no wheel)
front and rear brakes
rear derailleur (7-speed)
front derailleur
front and rear shifters
crankset 175-mm 52/42

I will also be selling Suntour brake levers and hoods bought NOS 3/1/13.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj
Yes true, however 3 of the 5 I have are 27.2 seatpost with no problems.
I have a 27.2 in mine currently, no issue.
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zs3889, I switched the 1050 down tube shifters to 1055 shifters found on eBay. These are designed for 7 speed index shifting (7 clicks!). It took me a while to find decent ones at a fair price, so good luck.
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Originally Posted by johnlink
Here is the full list of Suntour parts I will be selling, all of which were original parts on my Centurion Ironman and now replaced with Dura Ace components:

brake levers and hoods
hub on Mavic front wheel with skewer (bearings replaced late 2015 or early 2016)
rear hub and skewer (no wheel)
front and rear brakes
rear derailleur (7-speed)
front derailleur
front and rear shifters
crankset 175-mm 52/42

I will also be selling Suntour brake levers and hoods bought NOS 3/1/13.
Are these Suntour GPX parts? from a 1989 Expert?
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Anybody got a Shimano 600 Rear Derailieur from a 85 Ironman they want to part with. the Dark anodized one.

This girl has a 600 Ultegra unit but i want to go back to stock on it.



And did the 85 have Dark anodized 600 Brake levers or was that 1986? most of all the pics ive seen of the 1985's dont have the Anodized ones.
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Originally Posted by fleslider
Are these Suntour GPX parts? from a 1989 Expert?
Yes, except for the second pair of brake levers I bought as NOS 3/1/13.

CORRECTION: The front wheel is an Araya CTL-370, not a Mavic.

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