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Old 04-03-22, 10:07 AM
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28 spoke wheels for heavy rider

I'm a big guy with a specialized chisel that came with 28 spoke wheels. Having constant issues with broken spokes on the rear wheel. Thinking of buying a 32 hole XT boost hub and building up a new wheel, I have a new stans rim and would just have to buy spokes. Probably be about 100 dollars investment as i can build wheels. Or is there a strong rear wheel someone would suggest?
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Which Stan's rim? They make more than 1 you know.
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Yeah which rim? But sure 32 hole better use non-butted 14 ga spokes and brass nipples.
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Sorry to be a little... as the British call "cheeky" but why not just deal with the elephant in the room and lose weight? If you're that heavy you're breaking wheels then a wheelset is the least of your concerns because that means you're heavy enough to be breaking arteries, joints, pancreas, kidneys, heart and brains too. There isn't an organ that isn't negatively affected and won't be diseased in some way by obesity. It's such a prevalent condition that people think it's OK or normal and have a warped sensation of what constitute a healthy weight. Realistically nobody should be over 200lbs except the most muscular of over 6 footers and even then not by much. But the truth is that fat acceptance should be retitled "dialysis" or "stroke" or "life expectancy and quality of life reduction" acceptance because that's where it's going to lead yet nobody draws the dotted line 10, 20, 30 years down the road. Ignorance is bliss but it doesn't extenuate you or prevent the consequences of your actions.

I commend you for cycling but the real truth is that exercise does NOT help you lose much weight, almost all of your excess poundage is diet or should I say excess calorie related. Probably the easiest way to get yourself to a healthy weight is eliminating carbs and processed food, eliminating all alcohol as the new studies show there is no safe dose and it inhibits fat metabolism or burning, and intermittent fasting. Portion control is also helpful, if you wish to change nothing then start with eating just 75% of what you are currently consuming. Eliminate all sweet or sugary drinks too and NEVER eat in front of screens as that hijacks your attention making you eat way more than you think.

The resources are out there more than ever to help you. Strongly consider consulting with nutritionist and as always with any lifestyle change, talk to your doctor first.
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Originally Posted by Attilio
If you're that heavy you're breaking wheels then a wheelset is the least of your concerns because that means you're heavy enough to be breaking arteries, joints, pancreas, kidneys, heart and brains too.
As the Brits might say, this is rubbish.

Not every cyclist is a 5 foot 7 120 pound TDF athlete, and even those guys wreck wheels. Stuff happens. A 28 spoke count is low for a rear MTB wheel. Combine that with an extreme riding style, and a few broken spokes isn't unheard of.

OP, as others have said, I'd try the higher spoke count, and get thicker spokes. Since you have some of the supplies already, why not try it out and see if it makes the difference. Could be a fun project and save you some heartache in the future.

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Originally Posted by geomiko
As the Brits might say, this is rubbish.

Not every cyclist is a 5 foot 7 120 pound TDF athlete, and even those guys wreck wheels. Stuff happens. A 28 spoke count is low for a rear MTB wheel. Combine that with an extreme riding style, and a few broken spokes isn't unheard of.

OP, as others have said, I'd try the higher spoke count, and get thicker spokes. Since you have some of the supplies already, why not try it out and see if it makes the difference. Could be a fun project and save you some heartache in the future.

Cheers
OP mentioned being heavy but let's be real. How heavy do you have to be to break wheels? Am 6'5", 185lbs and ride a LOT under many conditions, never broke a wheel. I had two friends (well only one now the other killed himself) that are obese and ride, one is quite fast but neither broke wheels. Let's face it the % of overweight/obese is so high that people think it's normal and that the world needs to change to adapt to their self destructive habits. If you're heavy and breaking wheels, it's not a wheel problem.

Absolutely not rubbish that every pound above BMI 25, especially 30 is shortening your lifespan and reducing the remaining quality thereof. Realistically most people's healthy weight is a lot less than that (flat stomach). If I had a penny for every person who said "it's all muscle" yet harbored a round beer gut....many act like it's so hard these days so I think BMI 25 is a good start as that gets you out of most of the metabolic danger zone once accomplished you can keep going below that with more tweaks.

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Originally Posted by tungsten
Yeah which rim? But sure 32 hole better use non-butted 14 ga spokes and brass nipples.
Wrong. Butted spokes will be more durable all other things being equal. A 14/15/14 will outlive a straight 14 pretty much every time.
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You can also have someone relace the wheels and provide 3-across spokes. There is more flex available and when I was doing tours in places where the nearest bike shop was 300 miles away I even built a set of wheels with 4-across spokes and never broke a spoke. You will have longer than average spokes so you will need to buy new spare spokes, just in case. Better and stronger premium grade spokes cost more but the added expense is relatively minor and a good investment.
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Originally Posted by Attilio
Sorry to be a little... as the British call "cheeky" but why not just deal with the elephant in the room and lose weight? If you're that heavy you're breaking wheels then a wheelset is the least of your concerns because that means you're heavy enough to be breaking arteries, joints, pancreas, kidneys, heart and brains too. There isn't an organ that isn't negatively affected and won't be diseased in some way by obesity. It's such a prevalent condition that people think it's OK or normal and have a warped sensation of what constitute a healthy weight. Realistically nobody should be over 200lbs except the most muscular of over 6 footers and even then not by much. But the truth is that fat acceptance should be retitled "dialysis" or "stroke" or "life expectancy and quality of life reduction" acceptance because that's where it's going to lead yet nobody draws the dotted line 10, 20, 30 years down the road. Ignorance is bliss but it doesn't extenuate you or prevent the consequences of your actions.

I commend you for cycling but the real truth is that exercise does NOT help you lose much weight, almost all of your excess poundage is diet or should I say excess calorie related. Probably the easiest way to get yourself to a healthy weight is eliminating carbs and processed food, eliminating all alcohol as the new studies show there is no safe dose and it inhibits fat metabolism or burning, and intermittent fasting. Portion control is also helpful, if you wish to change nothing then start with eating just 75% of what you are currently consuming. Eliminate all sweet or sugary drinks too and NEVER eat in front of screens as that hijacks your attention making you eat way more than you think.

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What an asinine thing to post.
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Originally Posted by Attilio
OP mentioned being heavy but let's be real. How heavy do you have to be to break wheels? Am 6'5", 185lbs and ride a LOT under many conditions, never broke a wheel. I had two friends (well only one now the other killed himself) that are obese and ride, one is quite fast but neither broke wheels. Let's face it the % of overweight/obese is so high that people think it's normal and that the world needs to change to adapt to their self destructive habits. If you're heavy and breaking wheels, it's not a wheel problem.

Absolutely not rubbish that every pound above BMI 25, especially 30 is shortening your lifespan and reducing the remaining quality thereof. Realistically most people's healthy weight is a lot less than that (flat stomach). If I had a penny for every person who said "it's all muscle" yet harbored a round beer gut....many act like it's so hard these days so I think BMI 25 is a good start as that gets you out of most of the metabolic danger zone once accomplished you can keep going below that with more tweaks.
I have several riding buddies who regularly trash typical 32 spoke wheels and are certainly not overweight.

Heck, I just rode with a guy that could not be over 150lbs dripping wet, and he had just trashed a rear wheel.

But even if the OP is overweight (something you actually have no knowledge of), he came here looking for wheel advice, not to be lectured about something that is frankly none or your business.

And did I miss where the OP even gave his BMI?
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