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Old 07-30-19, 07:08 PM
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Whoa, fully ******tastic.
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Old 07-30-19, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaskar View Post
Really? One guy. One guy made an effort to intervene. WTF is wrong with people!?
I wish people would stop taking pictures and videos and start taking action. What a bunch of chicken****s. That part makes me more angry than the actual theft. The thief KNEW those people weren't going to do a damn thing. Crazy.
A ... person busted my car window and pulled my bike out through it while I was in the bathroom. Broad daylight, rush hour, lots of people watched him ride off on it. I had really nice wheels. 😕
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Old 07-31-19, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
A ... person busted my car window and pulled my bike out through it while I was in the bathroom. Broad daylight, rush hour, lots of people watched him ride off on it. I had really nice wheels. 😕
I'll bet someone got some cool video ;-)
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Old 07-31-19, 07:13 AM
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Too violent a culture. I am not risking my life to save someone's personal property.
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Old 07-31-19, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Too violent a culture. I am not risking my life to save someone's personal property.
Especially when you don't know what someone's carrying.
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Old 07-31-19, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
Especially when you don't know what someone's carrying.
That's exactly what I meant.

A bike can be replaced.
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Old 07-31-19, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jitteringjr View Post
Looks like from the video that the thief had two other thug-ligans ready to step in though that were clearly not there for a bike ride. I've personally stopped a bike theft in progress but that was one on one in a public area not in the 'hood'.
The video almost made it appear as if something else had occurred before hand between the assaulter and the cyclist - maybe it was just after the first effort to take the bike, but perhaps an argument? Not justifying the theft, but it has the appearance of being more like a "you almost ran me over, now I'm going to take your bike".
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Old 08-03-19, 08:31 PM
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Earlier in the thread I mentioned lead in petrol being a large contributing factor to crime rates, and with Baltimore hitting the news, I just remembered this excellent deep dive into the problems of that city... Lead in paint can be a big deal too. Not to mention a whole host of other problems of institutionalised neglect and abuse. This is well worth the 17 minutes:

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Originally Posted by Kimmo View Post
Earlier in the thread I mentioned lead in petrol being a large contributing factor to crime rates, and with Baltimore hitting the news, I just remembered this excellent deep dive into the problems of that city... Lead in paint can be a big deal too. Not to mention a whole host of other problems of institutionalised neglect and abuse. This is well worth the 17 minutes:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8r6GBo_7UNc
Leaded gasoline was phased out in the US around 1985. Are you saying the trace amounts of lead that’s in gasoline today is a contributing factor in crime rates?

Crime rates in a Flint, Michigan should be absolutely through the roof!

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Old 08-04-19, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MattTheHat View Post
Leaded gasoline was phased out in the US around 1985. Are you saying the trace amounts of lead that’s in gasoline today is a contributing factor in crime rates?

Crime rates in a Flint, Michigan should be absolutely through the roof!

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"Lead–crime hypothesis" from Wikipedia

The lead–crime hypothesis is the proposed link between elevated blood lead levels in children and increased rates of crime, delinquency, and recidivism later in life.

Lead is widely understood to be highly toxic to multiple organs of the body, particularly the brain. Individuals exposed to lead at young ages may be more vulnerable to learning disabilities, decreased I.Q., attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, and problems with impulse control, all of which may be negatively impacting decision making and leading to the commission of more crimes as these children reach adulthood, especially violent crimes.

Proponents of the lead–crime hypothesis argue that the removal of lead additives from motor fuel, and the consequent decline in children's lead exposure, explains the fall in crime rates in the United States beginning in the 1990s. This hypothesis also offers an explanation of the earlier rise in crime in the preceding decades as the result of increased lead exposure throughout the mid-20th century.

The lead–crime hypothesis is not mutually exclusive with other explanations of the drop in US crime rates....
Baltimore’s Toxic Legacy Of Lead Paint from fivethirtyeight.com
State tests found more than 65,000 children in the city [Baltimore] with dangerously high blood-lead levels from 1993 to 2013. Across the United States, more than half a million kids are poisoned by lead each year, and the majority come from cities like Baltimore: rust belt towns built up during the first half of the 20th century when leaded paint was dominant. As populations and employment opportunities shrank in recent decades, poverty and neglect combined with older housing allowed lead paint poisoning to plague the city.

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Old 08-04-19, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MattTheHat View Post
Leaded gasoline was phased out in the US around 1985. Are you saying the trace amounts of lead that’s in gasoline today is a contributing factor in crime rates?
I'm saying there's a huge correlation in the data that can't be ignored. The phasing out of lead in petrol led to a marked decrease in crime, as people unaffected by it as kids grew up years later. In places like Baltimore where underprivileged sections of the community continue to be exposed to lead from flaking paint in unmaintained dwellings, thanks to generations of repressive practices, kids are still getting brain damage like they did from car exhaust in the past.

Epidemiologists have far more interesting and useful stuff to say about this sort of thing than intellectually bankrupt conservatives trying to bolster their threadbare myth of meritocracy.
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Emphasis on hypothesis.

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Originally Posted by Kimmo View Post
I'm saying there's a huge correlation in the data that can't be ignored. The phasing out of lead in petrol led to a marked decrease in crime, as people unaffected by it as kids grew up years later. In places like Baltimore where underprivileged sections of the community continue to be exposed to lead from flaking paint in unmaintained dwellings, thanks to generations of repressive practices, kids are still getting brain damage like they did from car exhaust in the past.

Epidemiologists have far more interesting and useful stuff to say about this sort of thing than intellectually bankrupt conservatives trying to bolster their threadbare myth of meritocracy.
Maybe it can’t or shouldn’t be ignored, but on the other hand it can also be explained by other theories. One’s acceptance of those theories often correlates nicely with one’s politics. At which point I’ll step away.

I genuinely thought you you were pointing to leaded gasoline exposure as a likely contributing factor in this particular crime. My apologies. I should have read more carefully.

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Old 08-04-19, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MattTheHat View Post
One’s acceptance of those theories often correlates nicely with one’s politics.
You know the rat park experiment?


Give folks what they need, and they behave a whole lot better. Maslov.

It suits a few to systematically deprive a large subset of the populace, and to convince the rest that sort of misfortune is somehow deserved, while obscene degrees of privilege are somehow earned.

The US is rife with this, and spreads this trickle- down mentality worldwide like a cancer.
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Old 08-05-19, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Kimmo View Post
You know the rat park experiment?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9DcIMGxMs

Give folks what they need, and they behave a whole lot better. Maslov.

It suits a few to systematically deprive a large subset of the populace, and to convince the rest that sort of misfortune is somehow deserved, while obscene degrees of privilege are somehow earned.

The US is rife with this, and spreads this trickle- down mentality worldwide like a cancer.
More politics.

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Old 08-05-19, 06:55 AM
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I actually think the opposite is true in this case. The thief could've use a bit of lead... I'm thinking right about on the bridge of the nose.

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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
I saw something on FB about this guy's bike be stolen. I hope the thief is publicly executed(very slowly)

Paraplegic's Adaptive Bike Stolen in Calgary

A year or two ago a bunch of Wounded Warriors' bikes were stolen overnight in Philly. They were passing through during some ride. IIRC, they recovered them all.


And...OBTL
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