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What a theft

Old 07-29-19, 07:04 AM
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What a theft

Some people are just awful:

https://fox6now.com/2019/07/27/ridic...st-24-cyclist/
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Old 07-29-19, 07:23 AM
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While abhorrent, that's tame compared to what really goes on in this country every day. I once took an Agg Robbery report from a guy who lost his wedding ring along with the ring finger it was on to guy who used a rusty serrated folding knife to take it. Save yourself, not a neighborhood.
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Old 07-29-19, 10:00 AM
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While abhorrent, that's tame compared to what really goes on in this country every day. I once took an Agg Robbery report from a guy who lost his wedding ring along with the ring finger it was on to guy who used a rusty serrated folding knife to take it. Save yourself, not a neighborhood.
But was that in the middle of the wedding? Essentially that's what's happening here.
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Old 07-29-19, 10:25 AM
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In NY in the late 70's when crime was very high, there was an annual race in central park and the saying was off the back, off your bike. Thugs were waiting in the bushes to steal your bike out from under you.
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Old 07-29-19, 11:17 AM
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They recovered the bike. And, they have the video so maybe the ******* will be caught.
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Old 07-29-19, 02:36 PM
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That was a terrible theft, and I'm surprised the guy got away.

Let's not forget, however, that crime statistics show crime going down over the last many years. See, for example, https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...me-in-the-u-s/.
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Originally Posted by philbob57 View Post
That was a terrible theft, and I'm surprised the guy got away.

Let's not forget, however, that crime statistics show crime going down over the last many years. See, for example, https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...me-in-the-u-s/.
Yes, that’s definitely encouraging...unless you’re the guy getting beaten of his bike. Then maybe not so much.

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Old 07-29-19, 07:19 PM
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I don't mean to minimize what happened to the victim. He has my deepest sympathy. The thief should be taken off the streets for a long time.

But nasty things happen. We are all at risk of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. And the fact is that the risk of being a crime victim has been dropping for most of us for the last 25 years.
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Old 07-29-19, 08:48 PM
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Hopefully the thief busted his nuts on that botched CX mount.
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Old 07-29-19, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by philbob57 View Post
And the fact is that the risk of being a crime victim has been dropping for most of us for the last 25 years.
Yeah, they reckon a lot of that is down to eliminating lead from petrol.

On the other hand, the class war is still going strong, and we have kakistocracies everywhere bent on whittling away pesky government regulations, so hold onto your hats...
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Old 07-29-19, 09:11 PM
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...we have kakistocracies everywhere....
Now you're talking about REAL theft!
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Originally Posted by philbob57 View Post
Now you're talking about REAL theft!
Darn tootin. The biggest thieves have their names on the buildings.

But of course, most peeps will get far more riled up over whatever scapegoats the billionaires tell them about this week...

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So... clips or flats?
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So... clips or flats?
I prefer flats. And friction shifting. I am old.
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Really? One guy. One guy made an effort to intervene. WTF is wrong with people!?
I wish people would stop taking pictures and videos and start taking action. What a bunch of chicken****s. That part makes me more angry than the actual theft. The thief KNEW those people weren't going to do a damn thing. Crazy.
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Really? One guy. One guy made an effort to intervene. WTF is wrong with people!?
I wish people would stop taking pictures and videos and start taking action. What a bunch of chicken****s. That part makes me more angry than the actual theft. The thief KNEW those people weren't going to do a damn thing. Crazy.
Controlling a determined thief takes skill.
Have you got it?

How about the after-math in court?
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Really? One guy. One guy made an effort to intervene. WTF is wrong with people!?
I wish people would stop taking pictures and videos and start taking action. What a bunch of chicken****s. That part makes me more angry than the actual theft. The thief KNEW those people weren't going to do a damn thing. Crazy.
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Controlling a determined thief takes skill.
Have you got it?

How about the after-math in court?
There's also the bystander effect.
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Old 07-30-19, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by chainwhip View Post
Controlling a determined thief takes skill.
Have you got it?

How about the after-math in court?
You're kidding, right? That cyclist was being actively assaulted (technically battery). We - bystanders - are allowed to use force to prevent exactly this. If it took three guys to tackle, wrestle, punch the guy into submission - that's absolutely allowed. A bystander could've used a weapon to end the attack - and that would be absolutely allowed.

And how does it take skill for several guys to stop one guy from attacking one guy. For *$^@ sake - it was a single unarmed guy, not a grizzly bear.
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You're kidding, right? That cyclist was being actively assaulted (technically battery). We - bystanders - are allowed to use force to prevent exactly this. If it took three guys to tackle, wrestle, punch the guy into submission - that's absolutely allowed. A bystander could've used a weapon to end the attack - and that would be absolutely allowed.

And how does it take skill for several guys to stop one guy from attacking one guy. For *$^@ sake - it was a single unarmed guy, not a grizzly bear.
Looks like from the video that the thief had two other thug-ligans ready to step in though that were clearly not there for a bike ride. I've personally stopped a bike theft in progress but that was one on one in a public area not in the 'hood'.
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I've personally stopped a bike theft in progress but that was one on one in a public area not in the 'hood'.
And I'll bet you did that alone, right? This was during an event. I totally get (but hate) the reluctance to help a stranger in the middle of the 'hood. But the cyclists we on a GROUP ride. Surely 15 (or 50!) cyclists could've dissuaded 4 or 5 thugs from steeling one bike.
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Originally Posted by Zaskar View Post
Really? One guy. One guy made an effort to intervene. WTF is wrong with people!?
I wish people would stop taking pictures and videos and start taking action. What a bunch of chicken****s. That part makes me more angry than the actual theft. The thief KNEW those people weren't going to do a damn thing. Crazy.
Maybe in a country with free medical care, you'd see more decency. I put lawyer tabs down to America's health 'system' - you've gotta find someone to sue.
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Maybe in a country with free medical care, you'd see more decency. I put lawyer tabs down to America's health 'system' - you've gotta find someone to sue.
I really think a lot younger Americans have just gotten soft and selfish. They can hide behind a camera and feel like they're doing their part. Gimme one by-standing Aussie any day! ;-)
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I really think a lot younger Americans have just gotten soft and selfish.
Kids these days.

...Are responding to the world we've created for them...
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I saw something on FB about this guy's bike be stolen. I hope the thief is publicly executed(very slowly)

Paraplegic's Adaptive Bike Stolen in Calgary


https://www.pinkbike.com/news/parapl...n-calgary.html

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/team-g...-to-an-11.html
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