Sekine SHS
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Woodbury, MN
Posts: 429
Bikes: 2006 Trek Pilot 1.2, 1972 Schwinn SS
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 156 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Sekine SHS
I took a look at this yesterday.
Y Serial number, alloy rims, crank, stem. I'm thinking 1974 then.
It's 23" and I wouldn't say excellent condition, average would be a better word. Light rust on the chrome stays. One small path of rust on the down tube. Normal nicks elsewhere on the paint, it's certainly usable. The rims looked good. The chain is rusty but everything is original.
Since it's small I didn't make an offer as I don't like the changes of finding a usable bottom bracket there. I told the guy $225-$250 would sell it though $325 should work as a starting point.
Y Serial number, alloy rims, crank, stem. I'm thinking 1974 then.
It's 23" and I wouldn't say excellent condition, average would be a better word. Light rust on the chrome stays. One small path of rust on the down tube. Normal nicks elsewhere on the paint, it's certainly usable. The rims looked good. The chain is rusty but everything is original.
Since it's small I didn't make an offer as I don't like the changes of finding a usable bottom bracket there. I told the guy $225-$250 would sell it though $325 should work as a starting point.
#2
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,630
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3085 Post(s)
Liked 6,566 Times
in
3,764 Posts
In my area, in that condition, $100.
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 3,783
Bikes: Bianchi San Mateo and a few others
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 634 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times
in
9 Posts
Is there a cult following for Sekines that I'm unaware of? I'm having a hard time envisioning that bike selling for more than $200 just about anywhere. Around here, it would likely go unsold for a long time listed at $100.
#4
Senior Member
It's got those terribly disappointing turkey levers that make me want to rip the whole polluted mess off the top of that & replace it with a nice upright stem & pretty set of upright handlebars. Put a basket on the front & now your talking. Would make an excellent grocery getter.
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 654 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,036 Times
in
1,874 Posts
It's nice mid-range model from the mid-1970s with Tange Champion (CrMo) double tubeset and forged dropouts with an integral hanger. Aluminum rims on Shimano 3.3.3 QR hubs. Shimano Ttilist derailleurs. Definitely worth a lot more than $100, though it has a quirky combination of 3 degree taper spindle/crankatrms, 70mm BB shell and English threading.
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 3,783
Bikes: Bianchi San Mateo and a few others
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 634 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times
in
9 Posts
Good to know, @T-Mar -- thanks for filling in the details. In the provided pic, it looks an awful lot like a low-end bike boom model with turkey levers and maybe even cottered cranks. A better pic would definitely help the seller's case.
...but even knowing that it's a better bike than it looks, I think the seller may still struggle to get a price commensurate with the bike's quality due to lack of name recognition outside the Great White North.
...but even knowing that it's a better bike than it looks, I think the seller may still struggle to get a price commensurate with the bike's quality due to lack of name recognition outside the Great White North.
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 654 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,036 Times
in
1,874 Posts
Good to know, @T-Mar -- thanks for filling in the details. In the provided pic, it looks an awful lot like a low-end bike boom model with turkey levers and maybe even cottered cranks. A better pic would definitely help the seller's case.
...but even knowing that it's a better bike than it looks, I think the seller may still struggle to get a price commensurate with the bike's quality due to lack of name recognition outside the Great White North.
...but even knowing that it's a better bike than it looks, I think the seller may still struggle to get a price commensurate with the bike's quality due to lack of name recognition outside the Great White North.
#8
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Woodbury, MN
Posts: 429
Bikes: 2006 Trek Pilot 1.2, 1972 Schwinn SS
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 156 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Agreed, you'd be hard pressed to tell, without a good drive side photo and some detail pictures. But I sold these and the salient features are the chromed stay ends and top tube cable clips, which identify as mid-range. The cranks are cotterless SR Silver. How much this will sell for ultimately depends on the details in the seller's description, which the OP did not provide, IIRC, the OP has an SHS with worn cups and spindle and it sounds like he was considering this as a donor bicycle.
But the seller is an older guy, Viet Nam vet, I dont know how motivated he'll be to update the pics.
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 654 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,036 Times
in
1,874 Posts
Yeah, I told the seller he'd be better off with more close ops pics. I wouldn't want to take this one apart just for a bottom bracket with no guarantee it would be in any better shape. Value wise I figure $100 if the frame is decent and then $100 cause the wheels were alloy and problem free.
But the seller is an older guy, Viet Nam vet, I dont know how motivated he'll be to update the pics.
But the seller is an older guy, Viet Nam vet, I dont know how motivated he'll be to update the pics.
#10
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Woodbury, MN
Posts: 429
Bikes: 2006 Trek Pilot 1.2, 1972 Schwinn SS
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 156 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
FYI, don't restrict your search to an SHS. Also look for an SHB & SHC. These were lower models but used the same crankset and bottom bracket. These are much more plentiful and much cheaper than an SHS, due to their hi-tensile frames and steel rims. I'm checking the 2nd hand sites up here for one too.
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Southern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 873
Bikes: Too, too many....
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 125 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 130 Times
in
57 Posts
I took a look at this yesterday.
Y Serial number, alloy rims, crank, stem. I'm thinking 1974 then.
It's 23" and I wouldn't say excellent condition, average would be a better word. Light rust on the chrome stays. One small path of rust on the down tube. Normal nicks elsewhere on the paint, it's certainly usable. The rims looked good. The chain is rusty but everything is original.
Since it's small I didn't make an offer as I don't like the changes of finding a usable bottom bracket there. I told the guy $225-$250 would sell it though $325 should work as a starting point.
Y Serial number, alloy rims, crank, stem. I'm thinking 1974 then.
It's 23" and I wouldn't say excellent condition, average would be a better word. Light rust on the chrome stays. One small path of rust on the down tube. Normal nicks elsewhere on the paint, it's certainly usable. The rims looked good. The chain is rusty but everything is original.
Since it's small I didn't make an offer as I don't like the changes of finding a usable bottom bracket there. I told the guy $225-$250 would sell it though $325 should work as a starting point.
I just picked up a very similar bike, but smaller.
Butted Tange frame, alloy chain rings and wheels, forged chromed drops, all-Sakae & Shimano bolt-on bits...
Some girl will love it.
Depending on location these bikes can be quite pricey.
I think $200 Canadian ($150 US) is not unreasonable.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yaxsphuo8y...0copy.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dh6q40klaw...0copy.jpg?dl=0
Bink
Last edited by Binky; 03-28-17 at 07:50 AM.
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: south kansas america
Posts: 1,910
Bikes: too many
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 411 Post(s)
Liked 234 Times
in
140 Posts
It's nice mid-range model from the mid-1970s with Tange Champion (CrMo) double tubeset and forged dropouts with an integral hanger. Aluminum rims on Shimano 3.3.3 QR hubs. Shimano Ttilist derailleurs. Definitely worth a lot more than $100, though it has a quirky combination of 3 degree taper spindle/crankatrms, 70mm BB shell and English threading.
#13
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Woodbury, MN
Posts: 429
Bikes: 2006 Trek Pilot 1.2, 1972 Schwinn SS
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 156 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
I can't answer the first part but I took my current project in to the expert LBS mechanic. All things considered he recommended getting a new set of cups but keeping the spindle; maybe polish it down a little. The reason is that replacing the spindle means replacing the crank which means a lot of trial and error in getting something that will work with crank, chain, flywheel, and front deraileur. Reusing the spindle, even if not in perfect shape, means reusing the crank and avoiding all those other issues.
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 654 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,036 Times
in
1,874 Posts
Yes, you can change the cranks and spindle, but it's not straight forward. For a ball and cup bottom bracket, you'll have to use English cups with a 70mm spindle or mill the BB shell down to 68mm wide. If you're using a sealed cartridge bottom bracket , you'll either have to mill the shell or use a locknut free style, such as Shimano, and tolerate a 1mm skew in the spindle (not an issue for most people but some get fanatical over this sort of discrepancy). In all cases, there will probably be some trial and error to establish the proper chain line.
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 654 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,036 Times
in
1,874 Posts
I can't answer the first part but I took my current project in to the expert LBS mechanic. All things considered he recommended getting a new set of cups but keeping the spindle; maybe polish it down a little. The reason is that replacing the spindle means replacing the crank which means a lot of trial and error in getting something that will work with crank, chain, flywheel, and front deraileur. Reusing the spindle, even if not in perfect shape, means reusing the crank and avoiding all those other issues.
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: south kansas america
Posts: 1,910
Bikes: too many
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 411 Post(s)
Liked 234 Times
in
140 Posts
Thanks T-Mar and Jorglueke for the info... I have a Sekine in the shoots, and don't know if it has that crank (I assume it does). I guess I'll see what I have and whether it needs any worn parts replaced when I rip it down.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rims
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
6
01-17-11 07:10 PM