Use stuff sacks or not?
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BTDT as well. I get colder as I'm aging. I can tolerate heat quite well now, but cold is... c-c-c-cold!
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Neither do I. Anything I place in my Ortliebs must be clean and dry, and I'm pretty anal about it. I carry my sleeping bag just like you do. I also put other wet items in the same bag as my tent. When I am riding, and the weather is dry again, I'll open the bag, drape the tent in a fashion that it will expose as much wet fabric to the open air, strap it down, and let it dry. I'll refold/re-strap it as I go about my day. If there is a nice breeze or sunny or both, its usually dry well before its time to set it up again. If its a rainy couple of days, I just try to keep it clean between setups.
I can see the sleeping bag in a pannier…although it does just fine outside…but the tent? Why?
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Because it's durable, easy to patch with tape if it does get a hole, and mainly because it's white and easy to see stuff inside! One bag will last me years and hundreds of nights of travel, and is plenty big enough for all my insulation.
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I’m still not getting this putting a tent inside a pannier thing. I just don’t see the reason. First and foremost, every tent I’ve owned is too large to go into a pannier. My current tent is 19” long when packed. An Ortlieb Back Roller Classic is 16” x 9” which, when you do the math has a diagonal of just over 18”. The poles stick out of the top and the bag can’t be rolled. Separating the tent and the poles makes zero sense to me as they are a neat little package that is easy to carry. And, since the tent is made to endure weather, leaving it to ride out in the elements isn’t an issue.
I can see the sleeping bag in a pannier…although it does just fine outside…but the tent? Why?
I can see the sleeping bag in a pannier…although it does just fine outside…but the tent? Why?
I think that human nature has a role to play in this. We do things because we think its a good idea, but we rarely see the road beyond the corner if you know what I mean. It is a good thing to be able to foresee the dramatic effects of wetness/dampness inside your bags, and what it will do to all of your other gear. It is a sign of a seasoned traveler.
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I’m still not getting this putting a tent inside a pannier thing. I just don’t see the reason. First and foremost, every tent I’ve owned is too large to go into a pannier. My current tent is 19” long when packed. An Ortlieb Back Roller Classic is 16” x 9” which, when you do the math has a diagonal of just over 18”. The poles stick out of the top and the bag can’t be rolled. Separating the tent and the poles makes zero sense to me as they are a neat little package that is easy to carry. And, since the tent is made to endure weather, leaving it to ride out in the elements isn’t an issue.
I can see the sleeping bag in a pannier…although it does just fine outside…but the tent? Why?
I can see the sleeping bag in a pannier…although it does just fine outside…but the tent? Why?
After the trip in the photo below, I cut new tent poles with more segments so that the poles will fold up short enough to fit in the pannier. But in the photo, the poles would not fit in the front pannier, the poles are in the green bag on top of the rear rack.
I always put my sleeping bag in a rear pannier near the top.
I am not saying what i am doing is right. This is just the way I do it. If you want to do it differently, go ahead.
Half a century ago a scout leader taught me that you always use redundancies to make sure your sleeping bag stays dry, he learned that in the Navy in WW II. And there have been a few times that I was glad he taught me that years ago. So, I see nothing wrong with a waterproof compression sack inside of a waterproof Ortlieb which is what I usually use.
I usually have a dry bag or an Ortlieb Rack Pac on top of the rear rack, but that usually is mostly full of food. In the photo above, I was two days from home, had so little food left that the food and food drybag fit in a pannier instead of on top of the rack.