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Old 05-11-23, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pdlamb
I'm not trying to be querulous or cantankerous, really. And this bike will need adaptors to put on water bottle cages if they're to be used. But how does one carry fluids with a frame bag, and is it necessary to stop to access water from panniers or the rear rack?

I thought the best part of moving from a 1975 Schwinn LeTour to a newer bike was being able to grab a sip while riding.
You have heard of this new invention (from 1989) called a “Camelbak”, haven’t you? It’s the rage with all those radical mountain bike kids. It’s that red thing in the picture below. You may also notice that the bike has a Oveja Negra Super Wedgie bag which I find a bit more useful than the Revelate Design Trangle with regard to the water bottle that is on that bike. A Trangle bag requires the use of shorter bottles which have less capacity.




I also have a full triangle bag. For that I just use the Camelbak and carry a water filter.

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Originally Posted by pdlamb
I'm not trying to be querulous or cantankerous, really. And this bike will need adaptors to put on water bottle cages if they're to be used. But how does one carry fluids with a frame bag, and is it necessary to stop to access water from panniers or the rear rack?

I thought the best part of moving from a 1975 Schwinn LeTour to a newer bike was being able to grab a sip while riding.
Half a century ago bike frames almost never included bottle mounts and bottle cages always came with bands to strap around the frame tubes. Velo-Orange still sells the bands, but these are sized for vintage size frame tubes and won't work on bigger tubing. And not all cages work with these either.
https://velo-orange.com/collections/...tle-cage-clamp

I use Blackburn Comp cages with those straps.
https://www.blackburndesign.com/p/co...100000001.html

I have no financial interest in Velo Orange or Blackburn.

I wanted to add a cage below the downtube to carry a holder for my spare tube and patch kit on my rando bike, that bike uses the same frame tubing diameters as vintage frames. Used those straps and Blackburn Cage. I have used hose clamps on larger diameter frame tubes, but they are pretty ugly.



I do not recall if I used the provided bolts or if I used different hardware with those bands.
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Old 05-12-23, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
You have heard of this new invention (from 1989) called a “Camelbak”, haven’t you? It’s the rage with all those radical mountain bike kids.
Yes, I have a hydration pack (not the same brand as yours). And yes, I use it: maybe a couple or three times a year. And though it doesn't get quite the same exposure as chain lube threads, the discomfort I have when wearing one, particularly on long, hot rides, has been discussed in many, many threads over the years. So unless you have something to add that's not been posted many, many times before, can we leave it as I don't want to use a hydration pack on a long road tour?
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Originally Posted by pdlamb
Yes, I have a hydration pack (not the same brand as yours). And yes, I use it: maybe a couple or three times a year. And though it doesn't get quite the same exposure as chain lube threads, the discomfort I have when wearing one, particularly on long, hot rides, has been discussed in many, many threads over the years. So unless you have something to add that's not been posted many, many times before, can we leave it as I don't want to use a hydration pack on a long road tour?
The key is to pack the hydration pack with ice each morning with as much ice as it can hold. The result is having ice cold water to drink…far superior to tepid bath water from a bottle…and, perhaps more importantly, having 6 to 8 pounds of ice on your back. “Long hot rides” are not nearly so hot with a cold pack on your back. As someone who lives where a “humid” day is around 60% and the average is from 30 to 40%, I don’t do well in humid areas but that doesn’t stop me from riding throughout the US. An ice packed Camelbak makes rides in the humid east bearable for me. The ice water is just a bonus.
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He could always use a time trial saddle bottle holder that takes two bottles.

Wearing anything on the body is a no go for me. Adding unnecessary constriction, more weight on the spine, hands, and saddle, downside out weighs the upside. Personal preference.
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A few weeks ago, I noticed a company on Amazon had those same panniers under a different brand for 26 USD per single bag in a digital camo pattern...but $31 for two black ones. Of course I ordered the pair, and they are exactly the same as Rockbros.

Anyway, the price for the pair has gone up to 50 bucks today, which is still less than RB charges for one...https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...e?ie=UTF8&th=1
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Originally Posted by stevepusser
A few weeks ago, I noticed a company on Amazon had those same panniers under a different brand
Funnily enough, I noticed something similar yesterday:

ROCKBROS: https://amzn.eu/d/0F4sJDM
HYSENM: https://amzn.eu/d/htmhlYS (same photo, but reflected)

But, in this case, the Hysenm one is 25% more expensive.

PS I went for this one: https://amzn.eu/d/haGcpNG
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