And you thought it would never happen
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And you thought it would never happen
Fly by wire brakes. Please no.
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/shimano-electronic-braking-patent
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/shimano-electronic-braking-patent
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That's odd. If you're going to do that, you might as well make it wireless/hoseless and put the receiver/reservoir in the caliper. I mean, I'm not ready to put my faith in that kind of product, but if you're going to do it...
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Next thing you know we'll have bikes with electric motors that provide pedaling assist. Probably be called something dumb like "eBikes."
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I can see riding a bike where, if you forget to charge your battery, you can't change gears. But one where you can't stop? Nuh-uh.
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It would have to lock the brakes BEFORE you start a ride if there's not sufficient charge.
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I knew they would happen. it is becoming more common in high end cars why not on bikes?
I agree yes would like to see some redundancies but if you can stop one of those fancy Mercedes Benzsszs why not something on a bike, make it lighter and maybe better feel.
I agree yes would like to see some redundancies but if you can stop one of those fancy Mercedes Benzsszs why not something on a bike, make it lighter and maybe better feel.
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HOLD ON! If it's wireless it means the man is going to know when I'm braking! I will not have my braking tracked! sarcasm/off
It sure would be sweet having a bike with no visible cables. I'm in. It would really not be pleasant to get your e-brakes hacked, though.
It sure would be sweet having a bike with no visible cables. I'm in. It would really not be pleasant to get your e-brakes hacked, though.
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This really leaves me with so many questions...
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Do you suppose Shimano sometime files patents on things they have no intention of pursuing, just to throw off the patent-watchers (the folks trying to divine what the next generation of Dura Ace will be)? They probably have enough money to file frivolous patents.
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Fly by wire brakes. Please no.
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/shimano-electronic-braking-patent
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/shimano-electronic-braking-patent
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I always thought that this would happen - once we had wireless shifting, the completely wireless cockpit was only a matter of time. This sounds like the first step in perfecting electronically actuated brakes - eventually we'll have wired brakes with/or without hydraulics (if we don't have to transmit braking force from the levers to the calipers, we don't really need hydraulics) and ultimately fully wireless
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Fly by wire brakes. Please no.
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/shimano-electronic-braking-patent
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/shimano-electronic-braking-patent
A little hard to tell from the drawings.
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I fly an Airbus and it's what I miss the most from a "normal" airplane. You lose the "feel."
Luckily (or sadly) we don't race Airbuses and don't need to take them to their limits. The lack of feel however, is a bit of a pain during gusty/crosswind landings though. The Boeings in this aspect are more "pilot friendly"
Along the lines of this thread, the Airbus also has electronic braking... so you do put your life in the hands of computer braking more than you'd think There are 2 redundancies built in. Again, because of lack of feel, if you lose the computer, it can be easy to lock up the brakes if you switch to manual (you have the other guy monitor the brake pressure indicator). The last option is the emergency/parking brake (which, ironically enough), is also electronically controlled.
Interestingly, FBW and autobraking wouldn't exist if they weren't the overall safer (and more efficient) option. However, again, the use case is what's key.
Maybe electronic assists for safer braking for the average cyclist, but manual for the competitive crowd?
I also watch a lot of Formula 1 racing and they have BBW but only for the rear brakes... the front brakes are conventional (and work as a backup).
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I can sell you a thing that'll activate someone else's brakes. How much is that race worth to you?
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Well, those big Mercedes Benz vehicles have a correspondingly big battery and an alternator to keep that battery charged while the engine is running, so there is considerably less risk of losing power to the brakes than on a bike with brakes controlled by a small battery with no charging mechanism on the bike.
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I said it would happen on about every thread that's come up with a similar subject. My idea was that a touch strip/pad running the length of the handlebar might eventually replace the levers in the future.
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Luddites! But seriously, at what point do they stop being bicycles (never, I guess, if they still have two wheels)—a relatively simple, low-tech, accessible human-powered machine—and become just another expensive, high-tech gizmo? To each their own, I suppose. I'll continue riding old junk.
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Luddites! But seriously, at what point do they stop being bicycles (never, I guess, if they still have two wheels)—a relatively simple, low-tech, accessible human-powered machine—and become just another expensive, high-tech gizmo? To each their own, I suppose. I'll continue riding old junk.
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