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Old 09-29-20, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by badger1
That is because they are concentrating on not being catapulted over their bars by their disc brakes.
And worrying that their carbon frame will explode.
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Cycling and etiquette should never be used in the same sentence. You'll know I am passing you when you see the blur and feel the pressure wave of air slap you in the back. It is incumbent on other riders not to do anything dumb and to check mirrors or look over their shoulder before changing lines/lanes.
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"Cyclist Passing Etiquette"? More like Cyclists FAILING Etiquette, amirite?!?
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Old 09-29-20, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by friday1970
This happened to me two weeks ago on the Lakeland Trail. An older couple were side by side, I slowed down and did my usual "on your left". The husband slowed up, veered right into his wife's rear tire, and over he went. Blood already started to come from his broke skin, I apologized, though I really didn't have to. The wife just gave me the dirtiest look and told me "please leave".

I felt bad for them, and still do. Nothing I could do though. In hindsight, I probably should have passed them quickly and said nothing.
This is why I gave up riding on MUPs - that and none of them go where I want to go. I've had people respond to "On your left" by pivoting to their LEFT, on their LEFT heel, right into my path. I've had runners respond to pings by continuing to run down the middle of the path, and then yell at ME that I should say "Left" or "Right" - who passes on the RIGHT?!? This isn't Great Britain, fer cripes sake!
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everyone knows that etiquette evolves from what you use on the chain. /Wax, sets the standards for life in general regarding etiquette.
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes
And worrying that their carbon frame will explode asplode.
That too, but if you'll forgive, I made a slight correction above. Biek Forms conventions must be observed!
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Old 09-29-20, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
You'll know I am passing you when you see the blur and feel the pressure wave of air slap you in the back.
It's just like how they used to warn us about standing too close to a passing train: You'll get sucked under its wheels!
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Old 09-29-20, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by badger1
That too, but if you'll forgive, I made a slight correction above. Biek Forms conventions must be observed!
Point of order - I believe that's "crabon", if the frames asplode.
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Old 09-29-20, 03:56 PM
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Roadies seem to acknowledge me more often when they pass than when oncoming
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I don't care about warnings, but close passes are no good
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Old 09-29-20, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cycletography
I don't get passed by other cyclists too often, but the past few times it's happened the person passing me has given no verbal warning (i.e. "on your left"), no ring of the bell (if they had one), and when they passed they were about a foot away from me. Extremely rude in my opinion, and to top it off they couldn't even stay in front of me after they passed.

What's up with the lack of etiquette from other cyclists? Do they just not know any better? Do they think that I'm "less" of a cyclist because they're on a road bike with drop bars and I'm not, therefore etiquette does not matter?

When passing any cyclist these are three basic rules that I follow:

1. Ring my bell or provide a verbal warning (i.e. "on your left") as I approach.
2. When I pass the other rider I try to give them 3ft. We are still in the midst of a pandemic, so if I'm not constrained by traffic there's no reason to "crowd" another rider.
3. If I pass another rider I make sure to stay out front and keep on going.

I'm not sure why other humans on bikes don't show similar consideration, but many don't. Is anyone else experiencing a similar dynamic? Does anyone think I'm expecting too much in the way of etiquette from my fellow cyclists?
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Old 09-29-20, 04:31 PM
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I give myself at least 5-6 feet of passing distance. I do this not because of pandemic and social distancing but because I've seen too many cyclists swerve to the sides without even looking to see if the way is clear.
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Old 09-29-20, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Kahuna_61
I recetly had a guy pass on the right

Sit Rep:
Lightly trafficked MUP at that time of day, big downhill righty w/ poor vis ahead and to the right

I rarely get passed and this is a first for downhill

speed ~35mph drifting left( no visible oncoming)

I knew some one was back there at the top because I had passed him going into the staging area, just beyond the bottom I was stealing a look in my mirror to solidify where he was

next I know he's on the right beside me exactly where I need to go to clear the path for oncoming traffic
not a word of warning

passed him shortly after w/ a warning

IMO, Just another clueless putz that you run into everywhere these days

he subsequently tried to draft but was unsuccessful

it is just an MUP, not a race track. seems to me you are both in the wrong here.
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Old 09-29-20, 05:04 PM
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I ride on the road. As I pass, I say "Good morning/afternoon".
Doesn't seem any more complicated than that.
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Old 09-29-20, 05:14 PM
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I have a tinkling bell with a princess on it, that sounds like it belongs on a tricycle. I sneak up behind a roadie and ding it, sometimes they think a 12 yr old girl caught them and is about to pass LOL.

I hardly ever actually call out, and when I do you could take it to mean that I think you lack cycling skills or are unaware. For my part, I'd rather a cyclist not call out when he's passing me, unless he's doing something boneheaded. I know he's there, pass when it's clear and it's all good.
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I always look at there rear wheel & point as I pass.
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Old 09-29-20, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by spelger
it is just an MUP, not a race track. seems to me you are both in the wrong here.
No racing involved just a normal uncongested decent until the person in question changed it into a dangerous situation

Thanks for your opinion though, hope not to run into you though
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Old 09-29-20, 06:08 PM
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For me it depends.... if the rider is to the right and keeping a line... I just pass. If they are in the middle and/or wobbling... I call out.
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Old 09-29-20, 06:18 PM
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I ride with a mirror and am always aware of what's going on around me. No one ever surprises me, not motorists, cyclists, or UFO's.
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
I hardly ever actually call out, and when I do you could take it to mean that I think you lack cycling skills or are unaware.
I like the way you think.

This has been an entertaining thread.

One thing on passing, my rule is if I can't pass someone on the uphill than I probably shouldn't be passing them on the downhill. Let the stronger rider lead.
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Originally Posted by hubcyclist
Personally, on the rare occasion I'm on a mixed use path, I announce depending on the individual. If someone is "holding their line" I'll pass widely to the left. If people are crowding the center of the path or being erratic I'll announce. My opinion is that there's not enough placed on slower users to maintain situational awareness, if you're on a path expect at all times you'll be passed, have your head on a swivel and don't do anything without looking. Announcing should frankly be unnecessary, after all if we're driving we don't need cars honking to tell us they are passing us.
No, sorry, the rider ahead is in a much worse position to account for the relatively silent traffic behind him/her on a path, so the burden of making one's presence known prior to passing on a path is reasonable. Also, a lot of those slow riders are actually children. Swiveling your head 180 degrees is ridiculous. I ride fast on paths and I understand that making my presence known is my responsibility if I want to do that.

Paths are not roads, and we're not honking cars. The comparison is ridiculous.
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Old 09-29-20, 06:36 PM
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I don't always remember to call ahead but I make it a point to do so. I have nearly hit people when I haven't because I assumed that they heard me coming when they didn't.

Better safe than sorry.
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I've been on the other side of this discussion. Not used my bell and another biker I passed decided to give me a lecture about it later when he saw me stopped for a snack. I was not enlightened. It was a popular park with a lot of walkers, families and bikers. No crap people are around and passing each other, no surprise. I acted concerned and said oh thanks, I'll get a bell (I already have one on the bike which he may or may not have seen). I would have had to ring almost all the time or be like that guy on the Brooklyn bridge belting out an opera of "Bike lane, You're in the bike lane" or the guy riding a wheelie yelling yo, yo, yo, with an occasional shut up.

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I give an “on your left” if it looks like the rider is experiencing or the road is tight if they look wobbly I’ll usually shout “rider” similar to a Mtb ride from about 30’ back. Don’t like to call out “on your left” to the wobbly folks. They tend to wobble around and then dart left.
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