tyler_fred

Ben, I'll trade you my 61cm Bottecchia Professional for your 63cm, and I'll throw in a hacksaw for free!!

xiaoman1 

HAHA, It will take too long for my femurs to heal....so for now I'll pass.
Best, Ben

bikemig 

How fat a tire does the RB 1 take with 650b wheels? I thought it was limited to 32c or so in 650b? And what year?

mountaindave 

The best I can determine, it’s a ‘91. It easily fits 38mm tires. 60cm frame.

I could almost get 700x32 in there!

drew54

Any interest in a 90 MB1 frame only, 49 CM?
A local person is selling and I'd swap for your 46. Send me a PM as I'm not able to yet.

drew54

Send me a PM if interested.

I have a black Marin Muir woods. 17.5 inch CTC and
Black Univega Alpina Pro 17.5 inch CTC.

I'm looking for a similar frame of either with around 21 inch CTC or 150mm headtube.

Dylansbob 

Centurion Cinelli Equip frameset for tradeskis, preferable in PNW as boxes are hard to find.

Just got it at our local co-op, but it really is too big for me. Lots of scratches, very little decals remaining. I like the sleeper look with the patina and light rust on chrome. Cinelli pantos. I'll doublecheck sizing today while I strip it down, ~62cm seattube, 59cm toptube.. Looks to be clearances for 28mm tires. I can leave in the Campy 115mm square bottom bracket.


looking for:
56-60cm track and road frames
32h Mavic 500/501 hubs
Mavic FD/RD/shifters


built up

smontanaro 

What are you looking for (size, mfr, type)?

CampioneDeCasa

I have a 1986ish Fuji Del Rey with Suntour LePree shifters/derailleurs, and 27x1 1/8 tires. Sugino crank, nitto stem, and dia compe brakes. Just too big for me. 58 cm frame.

Would love to have attached pics, but apparently I'm still too wet behind the ears on the forum.

GaryinLA

Have:

Trek 520 with bronze-ish frame, 22.5", 27" wheels, 18 spd.
Trek 560 black, 63cm (24.5")-ish , 700c wheels, 12 spd.
1982 Trek 311, blue 22.5", 27" wheels, 12 spd.
Condition of all 3 are very good, nowhere near mint or near-new.

Looking for any steel framed road or touring bike in 22" or 55-56 cm. 21" or 53/54 cm is too small. 22.5" / 58cm is too big.
Willing to trade frames only or complete bikes. Would be interested in trading for newer steel framed/forked bikes also, ie Surly, Salsa, Jamis, Trek etc.
Only want 170mm cranksets. I'm in Los Angeles. Would prefer to deal local to avoid shipping both ways, but would consider non-local/ shipping.

GaryinLA

i corrected the original entry.
The 560 is approx a 63cm/ 24.5" frame. Originally just by sight i thought it was 60cm. I'm 5.9 so I didnt know, I just knew its too big for me.

shoota 

I'd be interested in your 22.5" frames.

GaryinLA

HI i wont ride a bike with carbon, due to safety. Your bike has a non-stock carbon fork.
Also your bike has 52cm seat tube. Not my size, i want 55-56 seat tube. Sorry.

CampioneDeCasa

Is that a thing? Honestly just pretty new to the game and haven't heard that reasoning for not riding carbon.

GaryinLA

Yes info is all over the internet. You can google it and look at pictures stories of cracked frames and forks, causing injuries.
One person who spoke out about this is Grant Peterson of Rivendell BikeWorks. You can go to his website and go back and read blogs from years ago on this point. For awhile he had a program to provide replacement steel forks (to people who bought bikes from other bike manufacturers) to people who wanted to trade in their carbon forks, as a public good.

thook

not really. carbon's a lot better than it used to be. yes...you can break a carbon fork/frame and steel is generally more resilient under equal circumstance, but there's no real reason for alarm. the "carbon scare" is virtually superstition now

edit: btw....opinions will vary and not necessarily parallel to reality. ask carbon fans and you will get hearty endorsements for it.

shoota 

He's an oldtimer, innovation stopped at downtube shifting steel bikes for them. Nothing to see here

GaryinLA

I just did a good search "carbon bike danger" and there's lots of stuff on the internet on this issue, including discussions on this forum. Just because the issue is more than 10 years doesnt mean it went away,

thook

machinist42

Everything is Forever and Ever on The Interwebs!

(My Beater for the past few years has been a Trek 2120, fashioned from three way overbuilt carbon fiber "tubes" and aluminum for the rest. It was beat when I picked it up, and has held up to serious abuse without a whimper. The ride is unremarkable, perhaps even "joyless?"
To dismiss carbon fiber technology because of assertions and anecdotes is a massive disservice to Science, especially Material Science. Nanotubes will someday allow for a bicycle of great strength and absurdly low weight.
It is similar to discarding the value of aluminum as a material because of Death Forks and Stems?
You can disregard CF, but please don't cite outdated data and pretend it's a Rational Reason.
Science, and CF, doesn't care what you Believe.)

GaryinLA

change " good "to "google" above to fix my typo.
many of the news articles and discussion, including ones on this forum, are from the last few years, not very old. There's many sources of info online on this subject.

xiaoman1 

Ok, so no BOTTS out there, what do you have in a 52-55 frame. I am looking for a straight trade, something of an equal value or any small TT's that don't fit.
Best, Ben
jeirvine

drew54

92 Specialized S Works M2 Rear derailleur hanger broken but "repaired" with a claw hanger. I have a better Wheels Manufacturing replacement hanger to attempt retrofitting.
Paint in need of 1000 touchups. Seatpost 20 inches CTT Top tube 22.5 inches CTC More pictures available upon request. I'm looking to trade for 55 cm lugged Bridgestone MB frame or sell outright.

wesley77803

Gary,
You should post the serial numbers. That would let people look up the year and size on the vintage-trek.com website.

I expect you are going to be out of luck looking for a Trek. Their standard sizes went 21, 22.5, 24. The only steel frames made in a 56 cm are their high end racing frames. There aren't very many and the people who have them tend to keep them.

Trek did make their aluminum frames (1000, 1200, 1400) in 56 cm.

I am surprised you can't make a 21 fit if a 22.5 is too big. There should be enough adjustment in the seat post to account for an extra inch. Then add some extra length to the stem to get the reach to where you need it.

The difference between a 22.5 (57.15 cm) and 22 in / 56 cm should be able to be adjusted by pushing the seat post down and shortening the stem.

You also need to check the model numbers. The 89 660 22.5 in (my bike) is a racing frame and has a 56.9 ST and 55.8 TT, while the 89 520 22.5 in, a touring frame, has a 57.9 ST and 56.5 TT
the 86 560 22.5 in (a racing frame) had a 55.9 ST and a 56.0 TT. The 86 770 (the top line racing frame) came in cm sizes. The 56 cm had a 54.9 ST and 55.5 TT. The 58 cm had a 56.9 ST and 57.0 TT.

The 86 560 24" size had a 59.6 ST and 57.5 TT. The 25.5" size had a 63.5 ST and a 58.5 TT.

GaryinLA

I gave the frame sizes and whether the bikes had 27" or 700c wheels. If anyone needs more info feel free to ask.

I 'd be interested in any steel frame. I have one of those high end racing frames by Trek in a 56cm. I'm keeping that one.

Not interested in alum. frames.

I have a 1982 Trek 311 in both 21" and 22.5." I dont like either fit. On the 21" I've got a 100mm Nitto Technomic tall stem.
I dont like the standover height of the 22.5". I feel it is too high for me.

I have and am offering for trade a 311 and a 520 that are 22.5". Also a 560 that i measure as 23.5".

I've measured the 560 I am offering for trade and I measure the center tube as 23.5" which is approx 63cm. If anyone needs more info, feel free to ask. Don't know the year. It has 700c wheels. Anyone interested in the bike should be approx 6'4 to 6.6'.