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Old 03-26-21, 12:13 PM
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new Enve bike


pretty nice looking bike
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Is it yours?

The bike, not the picture.
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Is it yours?

The bike, not the picture.
nope
​​​​no they started to make bikes....high end fancy
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https://www.velonews.com/gear/road-g...-made-in-utah/

Interesting entry into the market, seems like $10-12k for a halo-level custom bike is (extremely relatively) good value, especially with the brand reputation of Enve behind it.
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very nice looking bikes
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Excuse me for a moment as I clean and compose myself. I’ll be saving my spare change for that sweetness.
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I'd buy that before even giving a second's thought to buying a comparably priced Specialized or Trek or some other $12,000 bike with little to no customization.
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This wont well much.
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Whoah. 47-63cm, in 1cm increments, with four head tube sizes for each, and 5mm increments for stem length and bar width. Nice.

Pity that mast topper looks so bulky, looks pretty sweet otherwise.
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5mm increments for stem length and bar width.
I love everything about this bike except the bars. They're modeled after the AR bars. Those range from 38cm to 46cm at the hoods, in 2cm increments. 43cm to 51cm at the drops. Bad news for smaller riders or anyone hoping to race crits. Most riders can probably deal with the smallest bars but a lot of people will be on less than ideal setups.
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Originally Posted by rubiksoval
I'd buy that before even giving a second's thought to buying a comparably priced Specialized or Trek or some other $12,000 bike with little to no customization.
I think that is the key point. A Trek Domane SL7 already costs more than my custom bike (albeit steel) with the same components and features. At some point going custom becomes more of a value proposition.

"Custom" in the Enve case sounds like a wide variety of standard size frames with the ability to fine-tune the integrated cockpit and pick a paint-job, so perhaps the best comparison is to something like Trek Project 1.

Also, you probably won't have to toss out the stock wheelset.
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Originally Posted by smashndash
I love everything about this bike except the bars. They're modeled after the AR bars. Those range from 38cm to 46cm at the hoods, in 2cm increments. 43cm to 51cm at the drops. Bad news for smaller riders or anyone hoping to race crits. Most riders can probably deal with the smallest bars but a lot of people will be on less than ideal setups.
Who would race that bike in a crit?
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It's beautiful. I wonder how it rides. Bet the aerodynamics are fantastic.

If I was going to spend $12k on a bike it would be this. Or another Cervelo. Or three top of the line MTBs.

I like that it can go to 35 mm.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
It's beautiful. I wonder how it rides. Bet the aerodynamics are fantastic.

If I was going to spend $12k on a bike it would be this. Or another Cervelo. Or three top of the line MTBs.

I like that it can go to 35 mm.
I'd get a new road bike, a gravel bike, and a new mtb. Could do all 3 for $12k. Wouldn't be BF worthy dream bikes, though.
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Originally Posted by big john
Who would race that bike in a crit?
I've seen plenty of SWorks or other extremely expensive bikes in crits. Maybe it's just a CA thing?

Are you saying that this particular bike is not suited for crits? I guess that's fair. But narrow bars are a good idea even outside of crits. If you're going to get an aero helmet, aero wheels, an aero bike, race tires etc. you may as well optimize the bars.
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Originally Posted by smashndash
I've seen plenty of SWorks or other extremely expensive bikes in crits. Maybe it's just a CA thing?

Are you saying that this particular bike is not suited for crits? I guess that's fair. But narrow bars are a good idea even outside of crits. If you're going to get an aero helmet, aero wheels, an aero bike, race tires etc. you may as well optimize the bars.
I'm not suggesting it's not suited to racing, it just seems like a huge risk. Sure, there are expensive bikes at the local races but a lot of people feel "race what you can replace" is a good rule.
I guess if you can afford a $12k bike....
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I'm not suggesting it's not suited to racing, it just seems like a huge risk. Sure, there are expensive bikes at the local races but a lot of people feel "race what you can replace" is a good rule.
I guess if you can afford a $12k bike....
Again. I don't see how that's specific to this bike. Those other $12,000 bikes are... designed for racing. Is it really so odd that some people actually use them for that purpose?
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Originally Posted by smashndash
Again. I don't see how that's specific to this bike. Those other $12,000 bikes are... designed for racing. Is it really so odd that some people actually use them for that purpose?
It's not specific to this bike. I know there are working people who use their $12k bikes to race crits. I never said it was odd, I just said it was expensive and certainly unnecessary.
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I notice the seat post goes over the down tube instead of the normal other way around. Not sure what the advantages of this method are, but if something breaks there seems like you're more likely to need to replace the frame than just the seat post... 🤔
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Originally Posted by smashndash
Again. I don't see how that's specific to this bike. Those other $12,000 bikes are... designed for racing. Is it really so odd that some people actually use them for that purpose?
Sworks and Evo's in Socal ain't $12k. Nobody in socal is paying $12k for those. Everyone has got a 25%-30% bros discount at the LBS, or they buy it used.
No one is buyin a 12k bike to go crit racing in socal.
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Originally Posted by big john
Who would race that bike in a crit?
People who have the bike.

As safe to race it in a crit as a road race. All of the worst bike and bone-breaking crashes I've seen and/or been involved in have been in road races.
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Originally Posted by atwl77
I notice the seat post goes over the down tube instead of the normal other way around. Not sure what the advantages of this method are, but if something breaks there seems like you're more likely to need to replace the frame than just the seat post... 🤔
It's a seat mast, Trek does that on the Emonda.

"Forgoing a seatpost for a seatmast saves weight and, Pantone said, allows for better ride quality. "

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Originally Posted by aclinjury
Sworks and Evo's in Socal ain't $12k. Nobody in socal is paying $12k for those. Everyone has got a 25%-30% bros discount at the LBS, or they buy it used.
No one is buyin a 12k bike to go crit racing in socal.
I know lots of people who have bought a full price, $10-$12 S-Works Tarmac/Stumpjumper/Diverge/Crux/whatever. I don't understand spending that kind of money of a stock, not fully custom bike, but that's just me. I think there's room for the Enve bike in the market.
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