Buell77

New to biking, looking at road bikes for the last few weeks and I’ve narrowed it down to a ‘74 Trek 501@$200, early 90’s KHS@$125. Both are said to be in good shape, I’m expecting to have to wrench on them a bit, am mechanically inclined so that doesn’t bother or scare me. I just don’t know much about either model, any help words of wisdom would be appreciated. Remember, I’m new to riding so please be kind...

indyfabz

You are considering a 47 year old bike? As your first bike? Did Trek even make a "501" model or does that number refer to the Reynolds tubing used?

seypat

Have a mod move your thread to C & V. You'll get plenty of responses there.

mcmoose

Welcome to the wonderful world of road bikes!

Personally, I would be hesitant to buy the '74 Trek for two reasons:
First, it's old enough that it's considered a vintage bike, which is fine except it's often difficult to find parts (at a reasonable price).
Second, I'm a kind of wimpy rider, so I find the gear ratio of '70s road bikes daunting. I know I road them at the time, but I must have been stronger (and was comfortable with a much lower cadence) than I am now.

The Trek has down-tube shifters while the KHS has integrated brake/shifters (which is what virtually all road bikes use today). So, if you got the KHS, you wouldn't have to re-learn those motor memories when you upgrade (which I suspect you will if you stick with road biking).

Whichever you do get,, have lots of fun riding it!

HTupolev

You're looking at a 1974 bicycle by a company that was founded at the end of 1975?

Buell77

The guy keeps calling it a 501 Trek but from what I can tell it’s a 501 Reynolds frame.

Buell77

I appreciate the help, like I said am completely new here and have no idea what you just said...I’m a bit of a dinosaur in some ways...

Buell77

Just going off what I was told tome by the owner, I love how a newbie gets treated by certain people...really makes a guy want to ride and keep to himself, way to help promote the sport.

Inusuit

There is a section here called Classic and Vintage. Given the age of the bikes you are considering, the posters in that area will be able to give you some good advice. You can contact a forum monitor who will move your post to that section.

Iride01 

Old bikes ride nice and look great. However when you start fixing them up you'll have to decide on overpriced used stuff from eBay to keep it all original or put new modern components on it... if they'll fit.

Either way, you'll end up putting more money into the bike than it's worth. Maybe even more than what a new bike with a decent modern group set.

However if you are looking at it just for the educational aspect of learning to DIY your own bike, then maybe well worth the expense. Having done it myself, I wouldn't do it again.

HTupolev

Sorry, that was meant to come off lighter.

My point is, it's hard to know what to tell you about that bike, because neither yourself nor the person selling the item seem to know what it is.

Assuming it's actually an American bike from the wake of the bike boom, this is unlikely to be a big issue. Lots of the standards commonplace in that era are still fairly well-supported.

Buell77

Best I could tell they actually only used the 501 frame from around ‘83-85?

Ed Wiser

Yes you are dealing with vintage bikes. An the average bike owner today has little knowledge of bike made past a couple of years ago.
Trek models
Trek Bike Models by Year and Color

KHS
https://www.bikepedia.com/Year.aspx?search=KHS

If it was me buying I would buy a used Trek.
If you like working on bikes you can do all kind of fun projects with a vintage frame.
Todays new bikes are priced so high I can see why you are looking at vintage. There may be even a vintage bike shop in your city.

genejockey 

I am discovering that old bikes are a lot like old watches - they seem cheap, but there are a lot of hidden costs. With a watch, it's the price of getting it serviced, which means taking it down to its smallest parts, cleaning and reassembling it. Anything broken or worn gets replaced. Bikes are the same. Figure new tires, new cables, new bar tape, probably new cable housing, new brake pads and new chain, minimum. But really, you SHOULD strip down and repack the hubs, BB, and headset. This is how a $100 bike off Craigs List ends up costing you $300.

indyfabz

I found the question light and informative. In fact, when I first saw the OP I did a quick Google search and didn’t see any Trek models pre-1976. Now I think I know why.

JohnDThompson 

Trek didn't begin until 1975, and production started about a year later. Reynolds 501 tubing didn't come on the market until the early 80s. I suspect the OP made a typo or some other mistake.

indyfabz

See post #8.

Ed Wiser

that goes for any bike. You replace the bar tape and wheels and maintain your bike all the time.

Retro Grouch 

Which one appeals to you more? Try to negotiate the price downward and just buy it.

My personal recommendation is to do the least You can to get it rideable and just ride it. The value in owning a bicycle isn't in the bike itself. The value is in the experience.

Fahrenheit531 

Don't be intimidated by tales of wildly overpriced vintage stuff you'll have to score from ebay and blah blah whatever. Vintage bicycles are very wallet-friendly unless you are going for a full restoration on a truly special bike. Get the one that fits you better. Expect some outlays for tires, cables, etc., but I've found most old components clean up to solid functionality unless the previous owner has truly beat them to hell.

And as suggested above, spend some time in the Classic & Vintage forum.

icemilkcoffee 

I love old bikes too, but a word of caution - the older bikes with single pivot brakes are significantly worse in the braking department than the bikes with dual pivot brakes (roughly 1990 is the switchover point). This is especially true if you ride with your hands on the hoods instead of on the drops. Speaking of which- the older bikes are less comfortable to ride on the hoods with. The bars and brake levers don't have the right contours for that.
All of the above can be remedied if you don't mind swapping in more modern parts. That Trek would be a perfectly fine blank canvas for that exercise.

fettsvenska 

What are your budget/financial constraints? If you're unable or unwilling to pay much more than $200, then the older bikes are a good place to start. If you're able to go to $500+, that will get you a very good more modern bike. If you're able, I would recommend a more modern bike mostly because of the modern drive trains that have wider gear ranges and improved brakes. I also like the integrated brake/shift levers. Don't get me wrong, I love my older bikes and spend too much time over on the C&V forum. The older bikes are great bikes that ride nice and can still be very rideable.

big chainring 

The old Treks are great bikes. Can't go wrong with them. Great bike to learn basic mechanics. Trek selected nice components for their bikes, no need to buy anything but perhaps tires. Clean, lubricate and adjust. Bikes aren't like cars. Parts rarely break or stop functioning. Very simple machines.

big chainring 

Very odd statement. I ride on the hoods the majority of the time on 1970's Weinmann brakes. It was just as common to ride on the hoods in the 70's as it is today. Its not a new concept.

icemilkcoffee 

Here is the OP's Trek from 1984:

Notice you can't put the butt of your palm on the handlebar, because that part of the bar is sloping down. You are more or less resting on the web of your thumb and your carpal tunnel.

Now the same bike, with modern brifters and handlebars:

Notice the top of the handlebar and the hood of the brifter, form a continuous horizontal surface. Much more comfortable to put your whole palm on the bar now.