The Golden Boy 

I thought it was just me. I've been riding mine thinking I'll fall into it or something...

Andy_K 

You know, this thread is a perfect demonstration of why I hang out here and not on the CR list. On CR, I feel like I'd have to hide the fact that I'm even using clipless pedals on this bike. Here, everybody is like "why are you even hesitating?" and @gugie wants me to submit it for a 650B conversion. This is a good group for me.

nlerner

Go 46/30 Andel at a much lower price than RH:

https://www.velovitality.co.uk/produ...ouble-chainset

Andy_K 

I did that with an Austro Daimler. It was a like a Shimano museum with everything from 5500-series 105 to 7800-series Dura Ace, and pretty much everything in between, but it all looked right together.

squirtdad

@gugie meets Dr. Frankestein, during an Oregon thundershower, truly you don't know what would happen

bikingshearer 

If you are going to hell for this, I'm already driving the bus. Campy 10sp triple looks good, works very well, and is 100% appropriate for that bike. The only question I have is: What are you waiting for?

Oh, another strike against 11sp - those four-arm cranks still look wrong on a classic beauty like that Masi. I'm enough used to them that I no longer want to throw a tantrum, but I still don't want them on my bikes.

I'm right there with you. I constantly feel like I have to double shift to get a gear that is almost but not quite what I want. I simply do not have that issue with a triple.

gaucho777 

I'll throw out another option. Add a Red Clover triplizer (from forum member Jon Vara) and a Soma long cage for the RD (may no longer be available from Soma but they pop up on ebay from time to time). That's what I did with my Colnago. Looks the vintage part but is still functional in the hills. Dual pivots are nice, but those Record brakes with Kool Stop pads work well enough for me,

Andy_K 

Oh, I've seen what can happen.

Andy_K 

Well, I've done that too.



I even have a spare Red Clover triplizer and the Some long cage sitting on the shelf. The thing I decided I don't like about that is that it's an obvious compromise and leaves you with the worst of both options -- you get the limited functionality of vintage parts without getting the beauty. With this picture in particular I always felt like the rear derailleur secretly wanted to be a kickstand.

I've since rebuilt the De Rosa with the stealth triple I mentioned earlier.



It's 49-42-32 with a 14-26 freewheel, but you have to look pretty close to see that. My Gios is build like that too, except is has an SR rear derailleur so I can use a 14-28 freewheel. I do like this build a lot, but not enough to do it a third time, not least because I'm not getting any lighter or stronger and even a 32-26 only gets me up moderate climbs.

daverup 

I used the Sensah group on a gravel bike I built, I was curious. I'm not sure I'll do another 1x of any brand. These things must be great for the MTB crowd, I just don't see the need for it on my bikes. I don't think there is anything actually wrong with the Sensah group, it seems to function ok. For me. 2x or 3x will make me happier.

delbiker1 

IMO, do with it what you want with it, then make no apologies.

jdawginsc 

@Andy_K A bike’s one desire is to be loved...which means ridden.

Centaur is a really nice silver group in 3/9 and 3/10 configurations (I like the 9 better, for what it’s worth), plus you get to have the very fine dual pivot skeletons! And not terribly outrageous getting parts.

Might be an Athena version as well...

Seem to remember there being a Dura Ace 7700 triple, but not sure. Can’t go wrong there. 7400 triple would be fun as well.

Andy_K 

Once upon a time I tried 1x with a cyclocross bike, using a Gevenalle shifter and a Shimano derailleur. (One might be justified in concluding that I just like to tinker.)



The CX crowd loves 1x, especially now that they've fixed the various chain drop issues. I'm with you on being happier with 2x or 3x. Everybody talks about how 1x is so much simpler. Meanwhile, the rear derailleur has more technology in it than the first moon lander. I guess it is simpler for the rider as long as it's working.

iab

Well, to be fair, it is well documented what the owner of the list wants to talk about and what not to talk about. It is mostly the same people there as is here. Here I can encourage you to get a crabon fork and braze-ons for disc brakes. I can even bring up Illinois nazis and I hate Illinois nazis. Can't do any of that on CR, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

MasiMoe

As they say "It's only original once" and you had no say in that matter so go for it. Whatever is screwed or bolted together comes apart the same way if anyone ever wants to attempt to bring her back to her former glory. My '74 Masi is very close to yours and the only braze-ons are the down tube water bottle mounts.

Spaghetti Legs 

Andy, I just rode my Masi today and decided I really, really like it. It’s the kind of bike that should be ridden a lot, so do whatever it takes. If it makes you feel better mine is really hacked with a Sugino compact 50-34, ultra rare, Campagnolo branded Suntour triple pulley RD, Simplex shifters. Other than that, a completely faithful build. Well, also the modern Royce high flange front hub that looks like a Record HF.I just realized I haven’t taken proper pics of it but here are a couple in the files. I’m sure, in your collection, you have one or two classics with period correct builds, so that should be enough to keep the fire and brimstone bike gods happy.

52telecaster

I like the long cage. It looks like a touring hack from 1972!

rccardr 

I don’t know, kind of like the idea of having a couple of conventionally geared bikes hanging around that force/allow me to ride in different places than I would usually.
As GoMango once said, he found himself bulding the same bike over and over again, which really made me stop and think.
If all of my bikes are equipped for me to ride Skyline Drive, what will I ride just to noodle (or pootle) around the local locality?

Andy_K 

Oh, sure. I don't have a problem with CR. I like it, in fact. I just know it's not my scene.

Andy_K 

There's something to that, but maybe not for me. Before I put the triplizer on the Gios I thought if I left it like that and rode the routes I could manage with that gearing I'd get stronger. Instead I just wasn't riding it. I'm a very lazy man.

seypat

In these instances, the thought process is usually:

How many speeds?
Indexed or not?
Which RD to use?

After that, everything is optional depending on the budget and the preferred look.

seypat

Get creative and you don't have to spend a lot of coin either. The black bike was a budget/weight weenie build. The frame was gifted to me from another BF member. He shall remain nameless, but is among us. Outstanding human being. The requirements were 8-10 speed, triple, black bodied components and brifters. I also looked up the weights of prospective components. These were the lightest/cheapest available that met the other requirements.
The crank was $20 and the FD $15 on the Bay. Both from the Suntour X-1 group and lighter than Shimano's options that met the requirements.
RD is the cheapest black Deore in good condition I could find that would shift 8-10.
SRAM 11-30 cassette and chain.
Stronglight chainrings with the tooth count I wanted and the original granny that came with the crank.
Shimano 5500 black hubs.
Dia Compe forged dual pivot brake calipers. Cheaper and lighter than the Shimano 105 options.
Microshift brifters. I don't care for the long throw of a Shimano brake lever shift anyway. Win-win.
Cheap Kalloy seatpost. It was one someone had returned to A-zon. Cost me $9.52. The Nitto Pearl stem was not cheap. It's the only black one I could find in a 90. Already had the handlebars.

Under 21 lbs without the pedals. Not bad.

JohnDThompson 

+1 this. You won't need to change the derailleur to a longer cage or install a triple-length bottom bracket. Or Zeus, if you can find one. I run 48x36 on my bike:

jdawginsc 

Did you find that on Ebay Kazakhstan? I hear the Campy pulleys are impossible to find in packs of three, and we know how Campy pulleys crack.

SJX426 

I have this really bad problem of not riding enough. There are a couple of hills that are a bit of challenge.
I decided to convert the Pinarello to a triple up front after converting from DA 740x to Campagnolo.
Used a Racing T crank and RD, 52/42/30 with 13-26 in the 9 speed rear. Works out great! I just can't pedal at higher speeds.
P1050228 on Flickr

The De Rosa works for other rides with less steep hills and is jut a bit higher geared 10speed Record, 53/39 with 11-25. The crank looks like a 4 spider arm.
P1040419 on Flickr

For tooling around on relatively flat rides, the Langster works out very well. Plug for SS/FG.
2010 Langster Steel 61cm on Flickr