ACA Discontinuing some Paper Maps
11-11-20, 02:58 PM
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ACA Discontinuing some Paper Maps
This came in the Adventure Cycling Association's November Newsletter:
"Our mapping department is discontinuing some paper maps, since in the past five years demand has increased for our digital maps and decreased for paper copies. We’ve decided to stop reprinting the paper maps on 15 of our lowest-selling map sections. These are the Detroit Alternate Route, the Underground Railroad, the Pittsburgh Spur, the Great Parks South Route, the Tidewater Potomac Heritage Route, the Green Mountains Loop, the Utah Cliffs Loop, the Allegheny Mountains Loop and the Adirondack Park Loop. Once sold out, these paper map sections will no longer be available. All of these will still be available digitally, and continually updated."
What do you think? I personally strongly favor paper maps as I just do not enjoy the app.
I added a poll over on the Adventure Cycling Association's forums if you are interested in completing it.
Tailwinds, John
"Our mapping department is discontinuing some paper maps, since in the past five years demand has increased for our digital maps and decreased for paper copies. We’ve decided to stop reprinting the paper maps on 15 of our lowest-selling map sections. These are the Detroit Alternate Route, the Underground Railroad, the Pittsburgh Spur, the Great Parks South Route, the Tidewater Potomac Heritage Route, the Green Mountains Loop, the Utah Cliffs Loop, the Allegheny Mountains Loop and the Adirondack Park Loop. Once sold out, these paper map sections will no longer be available. All of these will still be available digitally, and continually updated."
What do you think? I personally strongly favor paper maps as I just do not enjoy the app.
I added a poll over on the Adventure Cycling Association's forums if you are interested in completing it.
Tailwinds, John
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11-11-20, 03:53 PM
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I prefer paper maps, tenfold (pun intended). I hate having to scroll, keep battery up to snuff, carry chargers, all the maintenance, care and upkeep for the 'convenience' of using digital devices while riding.
I also suspect/realize this makes me a Luddite.
I also suspect/realize this makes me a Luddite.
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11-11-20, 05:47 PM
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I still sometimes use PGS—paper guidance system, also known as cue sheets.
11-11-20, 06:10 PM
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11-12-20, 12:49 AM
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If it 17 pages to get out of NYC, then the cue sheet writers need to clean it up. I can cross the country almost in 17 pages and I have pretty detailed cue sheets. Still I would much rather use a cue sheet with a GPS or app to back it up.
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11-12-20, 01:04 AM
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This came in the Adventure Cycling Association's November Newsletter:
"Our mapping department is discontinuing some paper maps, since in the past five years demand has increased for our digital maps and decreased for paper copies. We’ve decided to stop reprinting the paper maps on 15 of our lowest-selling map sections. These are the Detroit Alternate Route, the Underground Railroad, the Pittsburgh Spur, the Great Parks South Route, the Tidewater Potomac Heritage Route, the Green Mountains Loop, the Utah Cliffs Loop, the Allegheny Mountains Loop and the Adirondack Park Loop. Once sold out, these paper map sections will no longer be available. All of these will still be available digitally, and continually updated."
What do you think? I personally strongly favor paper maps as I just do not enjoy the app.
I added a poll over on the Adventure Cycling Association's forums if you are interested in completing it.
Tailwinds, John
"Our mapping department is discontinuing some paper maps, since in the past five years demand has increased for our digital maps and decreased for paper copies. We’ve decided to stop reprinting the paper maps on 15 of our lowest-selling map sections. These are the Detroit Alternate Route, the Underground Railroad, the Pittsburgh Spur, the Great Parks South Route, the Tidewater Potomac Heritage Route, the Green Mountains Loop, the Utah Cliffs Loop, the Allegheny Mountains Loop and the Adirondack Park Loop. Once sold out, these paper map sections will no longer be available. All of these will still be available digitally, and continually updated."
What do you think? I personally strongly favor paper maps as I just do not enjoy the app.
I added a poll over on the Adventure Cycling Association's forums if you are interested in completing it.
Tailwinds, John
Definitely paper
11-12-20, 12:21 PM
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I use both. They complement each other rather well 
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It was Done on Google. Even the 5 NY riders could not figure it out.
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Paper Rocks! (...scissors. Even if not used constantly, important to have paper backups in the middle of nowhere, which is where I want to be. I like having a paper map displayed on handlebar bag to monitor location.
. Even if not used constantly, important to have paper backups in the middle of nowhere, which is where I want to be. I like having a paper map displayed on handlebar bag to monitor location.
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11-17-20, 07:25 AM
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I like the dependability of paper maps. If you are pretty techy, the digital maps are just fine, but it seems like there is always something to fiddle with to make them work. The only format I've become friends with is RWGPS. We seem to play well together for some reason. Paper maps give me perspective on a ride. Instead of a focus on a small area, a paper map will show me where I'm at relative to a larger, labeled area. However, when I'm needing to cut weight for ultra racing or just wishing to tour light, The weight and volume of paper is a drawback. Overall, it wouldn't be good to lose the paper option.
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When was the last time any of you bought a paper map?
I like them too. But the last time I found myself buying one was 3 years ago.
For hiking they make more sense to me.
I like them too. But the last time I found myself buying one was 3 years ago.
For hiking they make more sense to me.
11-23-20, 11:13 AM
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One resource that was extremely important back-in-the-day before digital maps was asking people for directions! 😳 IKR! This will obviously be a totally foreign concept to many young whippersnappers, but if practiced (politely and with a smile), can lead to quite wonderful encounters.
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11-23-20, 03:38 PM
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About a week ago. And I am looking to get another paper map of the continental US (for some planning purposes) asap. A large fold out map with details is much better for planning long trips than scrolling around on screens and having to zoom in and out for details.
I read actual books as well, and prefer it over anything digital. Go figure.
11-23-20, 03:49 PM
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We’re talking ACA maps here. You have to see one to understand the amount of information they have, particularly about the location of services.
11-23-20, 06:12 PM
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I always buy paper maps, but I now supplement them with maps.me downloads and google maps. I was touring last year in Colombia, and I spent several hours on my first day getting difficult to obtain IGAC paper topographic maps. I find paper maps are much better for getting the big picture when planning my routes than anything on a phone screen or even computer screen. Maps.me & google are helpful for navigational purposes, especially where signage is lacking.
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On June 11, 2020, I bought the new ACA Parks Peaks and Prairie map set. Unfortunately, didn't get to go on that tour in late summer as I had hoped. And this is not about me only of course. Obviously, there are many others who prefer maps over being forced to use a app or GPS.
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