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Old 05-24-21, 03:39 AM
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I race on them. I don't do anything different for installation except for being a little more careful to avoid pinch flats on install, but never had an issue.
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Old 05-24-21, 06:10 AM
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Just make sure your rim tape is in good shape (if you even have rim tape anymore), they can squeeze into spaces that a butyl tube can't, and they'll find sharp edges there.
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Originally Posted by Flatballer View Post
Just make sure your rim tape is in good shape (if you even have rim tape anymore), they can squeeze into spaces that a butyl tube can't, and they'll find sharp edges there.
I must be way behind the times. How do you avoid rim tape?
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Follow-up with hand surgeon didn't go great. One of the three screws needs to removed and replaced. Back under the knife again this week sometime. Joy.

what's up with the follow up surgery?
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Old 05-24-21, 06:44 AM
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what's up with the follow up surgery?
I don't even know when it will be yet... Probably Wednesday or Friday.

Socialized medicine and all. Poor people with real injuries can bump me!
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gees dude. :/
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Originally Posted by himespau View Post
I must be way behind the times. How do you avoid rim tape?
Rims with no spoke holes like Ksyriums. The channel is smooth all around. If using tubes you can put a little piece of tape at the valve stem hole but I have run tubes in Ksyriums without any tape. Too bad the spokes kept ripping out of the rims due to my massive geriatric wattage.
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Who here races on latex tubes? Is it pretty much the standard for a race wheel setup?
What I really meant to ask is, how many watts will they save me, and are they more prone to flats? I assume if the trade-off is good, that most people here are already using latex tubes. Thanks for the replies.
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Old 05-24-21, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ntnyln View Post
I race on them. I don't do anything different for installation except for being a little more careful to avoid pinch flats on install, but never had an issue.
Same.
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I get less flats on latex. I run them with turbo cottons on 55 mm carbon wheels (Spesh Venge) and they are fast AF compared to my aluminum box rim clinchers with butyl tubes that I train on (Giant TCR). Are they noticeably faster than butyl on the same setup? IDK, I haven't controlled for that. But all together they are quite speedy. My TTT captain is a total powerhouse and he swears by them so I'll basically do whatever he says. My TT wheels are latex w Corsa Speed up front (Hed Jet) and Vittoria Tubular rear (disc wheel) which is also latex.

You have to be more careful on install and inflate more often, and they are more expensive, but I want to say that it is worth it and potentially the most cost effective speed you can buy. When I install them, I inflate to low PSI and "push" the wheel into the ground while rolling, then inflate/deflate to high PSI twice. They work fine and I've run my turbo cottons all the way down without getting a flat. I ride these wheels for weekend group rides and training occasionally too.
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Old 05-24-21, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
gees dude. :/
I won't die of a broken ring finger.

They still have me doing ROM physio 6 times a day (in theory) even with the bad screw.
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Old 05-24-21, 05:30 PM
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I expect trail runners could beat this, but the fun part was they were cyclists.

Junior flew to SoCal Friday climb Mt Baldy (A well know SoCal mountain furiousferret ) fast with his LUX alum buddies on Sunday AM and my wife was to mule while I drove to CO.

Sat afternoon Imeh found he had to race Sunday so about 15:00 the 3 LUX alum decided to make a Sat twilight attempt (against parent recommendations). Two hours later - without the bikes - they team climbed Mt Baldy.
Imeh paced Daniel to the hut, then Daniel finished and grabbed the KOM. Junior hitched a ride home to Phoenix with me (and the cat) while Imeh raced with Legions.

Baldy Bowl Trail only | Strava Hike Segment in Mount Baldy, California
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I was riding my race wheels on a group ride when I hit a hole that I’m sure would have caused a pinch flat on butyl tubes.
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Old 05-25-21, 08:27 AM
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Thanks for the replies. Latex tubes on the way. I can't find any with long valve stems, so I'll have to use extenders which is a bit annoying.
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aren't all the cool kids saying 'what are tubes?'
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Old 05-25-21, 09:01 AM
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Thanks for the replies. Latex tubes on the way. I can't find any with long valve stems, so I'll have to use extenders which is a bit annoying.
Late to the party. For future use, Michelin makes latex tubes (Pro Bike Kit) with 60 mm stems if that is enough. I use 60 mm on my 50 mm Roval Carbon wheels.
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aren't all the cool kids saying 'what are tubes?'
Where does that leave me if I'm still on tubes AND rim brakes (latex, but tubes)?
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I just got some continental ultra light butyl tubes (75g each), guess I just kind of assumed latex was a bit more finnicky with installation and that meant more prone to flatting, looks like that was wrong! I'll stick with the butyl for now but maybe I'll try latex soon
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Me too on the rim brakes. Going to latex tubes is a jump into the future. Or is it a jump into the past? Latex tubes were the standard in tubies way back when. Maybe they still are.
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hey I'm on rim brakes and tubular race wheels
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My rim brake wheels are narrow....

Hospital called, Thursday morning O.R. booking. The saga of the million dollar finger continues. #GoldMember
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#rimbrakes4lyfe
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
aren't all the cool kids saying 'what are tubes?'
Pretty much for MTB. For road - they race on tubulars with latex tubes. I think that is what they race on, but I'm a bit out of touch. It is a rather minor thing, but I think the state-of-the-art is still tubulars with latex tubes.
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Originally Posted by hubcyclist View Post
I just got some continental ultra light butyl tubes (75g each), guess I just kind of assumed latex was a bit more finnicky with installation and that meant more prone to flatting, looks like that was wrong! I'll stick with the butyl for now but maybe I'll try latex soon
Latex in clinchers are PIA. I use/used them. Any little glass cut and the tube wants to peak out and pop. Sans cuts, mounting etc. they are better, but they find ways to sneak under anything but the perfect mount. Do tubeless or tubular - with latex tubes. Clinchers with latex are a compromise. But relatively inexpensive to try.
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hey I'm on rim brakes and tubular race wheels
Nothing has proven to be better.
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