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I was on a huge charity ride. Someone yelled “Clear!” at a left turn at a T intersection. Either they were blind, intentionally trying to kill us or meant “Car.”
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This has nothing to do with Scientology.
In my club, supposedly it's against the "rules" to yell "CLEAR!" at an intersection. I am not sure why other than possible liability, and I really don't agree with the rule.
On non-club group rides, I actually LIKE it when the first person to an intersection yells clear (or car right! etc.).
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In my club, supposedly it's against the "rules" to yell "CLEAR!" at an intersection. I am not sure why other than possible liability, and I really don't agree with the rule.
On non-club group rides, I actually LIKE it when the first person to an intersection yells clear (or car right! etc.).
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Seems like more times than not I look left and right no car, I yell clear start going and then appears for who ever behind me to deal with.
Roads are not straight in VA.
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We switched from "clear" to "rolling" a few years ago to encourage, if only slightly, everyone to make an individual judgment whether to go or not.
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Also while "Clear!" is designed to inform the rider(s) behind you, "Going through!" informs the riders ahead of you. If you don't hear someone behind saying "Going through!" you can assume they may have been delayed by traffic and adjust your speed accordingly until the group is all together again.
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IMNSHO if you have ridden with an experienced group for several months with no dare devils or testosterone fueled lab rats, then you know when someone shouts Clear, they can be trusted. OTOH, I would never trust a group or someone that I had not ridden with or just done a few rides. My wife and I ride together and we trust each other implicitly, especially more so after I let my life insurance lapse.
I do like the “Go through” concept though.
I do like the “Go through” concept though.
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This has nothing to do with Scientology.
In my club, supposedly it's against the "rules" to yell "CLEAR!" at an intersection. I am not sure why other than possible liability, and I really don't agree with the rule.
On non-club group rides, I actually LIKE it when the first person to an intersection yells clear (or car right! etc.).
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In my club, supposedly it's against the "rules" to yell "CLEAR!" at an intersection. I am not sure why other than possible liability, and I really don't agree with the rule.
On non-club group rides, I actually LIKE it when the first person to an intersection yells clear (or car right! etc.).
Comments?
scan and call for the benefit of the next rider, not for the whole group. Obviously a road that’s clear for rider #1 may not be clear for rider #10, and #10 would have to be a moron to assume otherwise. Best not to ride with morons.
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I'm all for the lead rider calling "Clear" at an intersection. That doesn't mean I take it as gospel and I still take the time to check, but it at least gives preliminary info.
If I'm on the front I err on the conservative side. If there's a car visible, it needs to be very far away for me to call the intersection as clear otherwise it gets called out ("Car right/left") as applicable.
If I'm on the front I err on the conservative side. If there's a car visible, it needs to be very far away for me to call the intersection as clear otherwise it gets called out ("Car right/left") as applicable.
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Intersection etiquette depends on the group and route. Some groups slow or regroup anytime the group is split due to yielding or stopping for traffic at intersections. No reason to worry or panic sprint through traffic. There are plenty of places along the route for uninterrupted riding so there's no real need to take unnecessary risks at intersections with blind spots.
Some groups blast ahead and use intersections to drop cautious and tentative stragglers. I don't do urban alleycat drop rides anymore. The only "training" in those rides is training to visit the ER.
Either way, I don't care whether riders ahead call "clear." If I can't see it for myself, I don't believe it. Maybe their peripheral vision is worse than mine.
Some groups blast ahead and use intersections to drop cautious and tentative stragglers. I don't do urban alleycat drop rides anymore. The only "training" in those rides is training to visit the ER.
Either way, I don't care whether riders ahead call "clear." If I can't see it for myself, I don't believe it. Maybe their peripheral vision is worse than mine.
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I have no problem with "clear" in a VERY small group (no more than 4 riders.) Even then, I'll double check myself.
In a larger group, the road may well appear to be clear for the riders in front, but by the time the riders near the end of the line get to the intersection, there may be a vehicle approaching. I've had this happen on a couple of occasions, and it usually results in someone crashing into the back wheel of the person who, at the last second, sees the vehicle and decides to stop.
In a larger group, the road may well appear to be clear for the riders in front, but by the time the riders near the end of the line get to the intersection, there may be a vehicle approaching. I've had this happen on a couple of occasions, and it usually results in someone crashing into the back wheel of the person who, at the last second, sees the vehicle and decides to stop.