Rear rack for vintage touring Peugeot
02-25-21, 12:16 PM
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Rear rack for vintage touring Peugeot
Attached is a pic of the rear section of my mid 70’s PX60. There are attachment points at the bottom of the seat stays for a rack but none at the top. How would I attach a rack to this bike ?
02-25-21, 12:31 PM
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Depends on the rack. Some older racks have an arm that passes between the seatstays just above the brake bridge and clamps to the brake bolt. Most racks can be clamped to the stays with plastic-coated "p-clamps".
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Though I am not a fan of the clamp style attachment, it does work...
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Plescher also made onE with an arrangement to clamp at the seat post binding bolt. Not as common, but came on my 73 Schwinn.
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02-25-21, 02:08 PM
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If you google "bicycle rear rack installation with p clamp" you will see a number of examples.
02-25-21, 02:42 PM
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How serious of a rack do you need? If it were me I'd opt for a large saddlebag that unrolls to much larger capacities (here or here, for example), paired with one of these (also can be attached with a tab via the brake bridge, check more pics here):
Then I would throw a Mafac rando rack on the front for a randonneur bag in case more carrying capacity is needed:
Awesome bike btw. I've always got an eye out for one of those.
Then I would throw a Mafac rando rack on the front for a randonneur bag in case more carrying capacity is needed:
Awesome bike btw. I've always got an eye out for one of those.
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Most people would've gone with a Pletscher Model C with the hardware randyjawa is showing. Pletscher still makes the model CS which, frankly, I can't tell apart from the Model C.
If you buy one, be sure it comes with the hardware. You really have three choices when installing a seat stay clamp-on rack: (A) Tighten its clamps down hard enough to crush the stays and flake the paint, (B) tighten it less hard and risk it shifting up and down on the stays, scraping the paint off, or (C) multiple coats of plastikote on the stock hardware, or use rubber hose clamps to attach it, or a brake bridge adapter to mount to - I've seen some creative ideas here.
Anyway, there's a few on eBay. I have several laying around, some with, some without hardware. I'm happy to sell off one of mine for less than you'll pay on eBay today.
If you buy one, be sure it comes with the hardware. You really have three choices when installing a seat stay clamp-on rack: (A) Tighten its clamps down hard enough to crush the stays and flake the paint, (B) tighten it less hard and risk it shifting up and down on the stays, scraping the paint off, or (C) multiple coats of plastikote on the stock hardware, or use rubber hose clamps to attach it, or a brake bridge adapter to mount to - I've seen some creative ideas here.
Anyway, there's a few on eBay. I have several laying around, some with, some without hardware. I'm happy to sell off one of mine for less than you'll pay on eBay today.
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There are racks new and used (check your local bike co-op for the latter), that attach to the brake bridge, like this one. Personally, I’d avoid any rack that attaches by simply clamping.
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I would look for one of the single stay Blackburn style racks- mount it to the brake bolt and to the eyelets on the dropouts.
Here's a pretty fun rack thread:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ilarities.html
Stealing Scott's pics from that thread, because he's a much better photographer than I am.
Vetta on a mid 80's Centurion.
20150915_151328 by flog00, on Flickr
20150915_151345 by flog00, on Flickr
Here's a pretty fun rack thread:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ilarities.html
Stealing Scott's pics from that thread, because he's a much better photographer than I am.
Vetta on a mid 80's Centurion.
20150915_151328 by flog00, on Flickr20150915_151345 by flog00, on Flickr
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Two stays as normal, single arm to the brake-bolt. There were/probably still are all kinds of these made, The Blackburn ones have a stainless strip with a slot, the copies sometimes just have a bit of aluminium with a hole, welded, un-adjustable except for bending the arm. They all are preferable to the ones that clamp to the stays; please don't get one of those.
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I don't get the disdain for p-clamps on the seatstays here -- they work just fine. You can get them, with a nice rubber covering, at any hardware store.
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For me it's mostly aesthetics. The more you can integrate accessories with the bike the better. So in this case I'd go with a rack bolted to the brake bridge.
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Fair enough. I'm more interested in practicality, though. I'm no engineer, but it seems like a connection at only one point would be weaker and less secure than a connection at two points, and in my experience that's true.
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In a sense yes - the crushing and paint-removal you see with most bikes that have had things clamped to their stays don't *really* affect function.
But absent necessity it should be a no-brainer, the better solution is available and no more costly.
But absent necessity it should be a no-brainer, the better solution is available and no more costly.
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I've got a rear rack on my AO-8 - it's fitted with P-clips and is rock solid.
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That's what I use on my mountain bike, which has no eyelets of any kind, since it was a dedicated racing model. The chain rest on the drive side prevents slippage, and the rubber coating prevents paint damage. The top/front straps mount to my seatpost binder bolt.
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Pletscher "mousetrap" is still my all-time favorite rack.
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Actually, I have been giving some thought to re-installing the Pletscher "mousetrap" on the Torpado, now that it is ready for the road. Got to test ride and road tune the bike first...
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