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Old 05-29-21, 08:44 AM
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Fascinating website, CPSC incident reports

You can enter "bicycle" into the search. It's just fascinating to see what kinds of things can happen. Naturally these are all product related, so it doesn't cover things like car crashes.

https://www.saferproducts.gov/
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Old 05-29-21, 12:36 PM
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The CPSC Is the regulatory part of the government for toys and bicycles. look up hand brake requirements.
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Well, here's my nomination for dumbest complaint ever: https://www.saferproducts.gov/Public...portId=2003331
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Dumber than the one where the bicycle falls over when training wheels are removed? https://www.saferproducts.gov/Public...portId=1308795
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Well, here's my nomination for dumbest complaint ever: https://www.saferproducts.gov/Public...portId=2003331
It does have an excellent photo though.



Next time just purchase a folding bike!!!
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
It does have an excellent photo though.



Next time just purchase a folding bike!!!

Or don't hit the parked car.
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I would be shocked by this, but I recently read an article about the rise of cell phone use by people riding bicycles in the Netherlands. It was written by an E R doc. It seems there has been a rise in the amount of bicyclists running into each other and fixed objects such as light polls and other assorted polls, planters, corner store fronts etc. Even though the parked car chaser didn't mention cell phone use, being drunk, drugged up, crazy or any combination of what I listed. This could be another case of cellphoneitus.
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I would be shocked by this, but I recently read an article about the rise of cell phone use by people riding bicycles in the Netherlands. It was written by an E R doc. It seems there has been a rise in the amount of bicyclists running into each other and fixed objects such as light polls and other assorted polls, planters, corner store fronts etc. Even though the parked car chaser didn't mention cell phone use, being drunk, drugged up, crazy or any combination of what I listed. This could be another case of cellphoneitus.

I have no idea what happened--the complaint claimed that he ran into a parked car while climbing. Judging by the crumple, that must have been one fast climb. The complainant hurt his fingers, but appeared to have been mostly angered that Specialized wouldn't replace the frame. I'm pretty sure riding into a parked car voids the warranty.
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Yes jokes aside that is a bizarre collision. Trying to complain so the bicycle company replaces the frame shoes an extreme lack of respect.
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This is another interesting site. I'm leaving it up to individual opinion whether all of these requirements are a good idea, but since regulation in the US tends to be reactive, you can probably read between the lines as to what kinds of problems people have had with bikes over the years.

https://www.cpsc.gov/Business--Manuf...e-Requirements
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Originally Posted by Chuck M View Post
Dumber than the one where the bicycle falls over when training wheels are removed? https://www.saferproducts.gov/Public...portId=1308795
Actually, my interpretation is that the bike fell over because the rear wheel was seized up after removing the training wheels, perhaps due to some problem with the bearings in the rear hub.

I think the good thing about the "dumb" complaints is they give people a place to vent, and know that their voice will be heard.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Well, here's my nomination for dumbest complaint ever: https://www.saferproducts.gov/Public...portId=2003331
You know, that was really rude of them to park where he needed to ride.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
You know, that was really rude of them to park where he needed to ride.
To be fair, the manufacturer neglected to apply the "Do not crash into parked car" warning sticker to the frame.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
To be fair, the manufacturer neglected to apply the "Do not crash into parked car" warning sticker to the frame.
Couldn't they just use the general warning: "Do not use for other."
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
To be fair, the manufacturer neglected to apply the "Do not crash into parked car" warning sticker to the frame.
Only because it's too insulting today to place the "You're Probably Too Stupid To Be On This" sticker on the top tube.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Or don't hit the parked car.
He didnít hit a parked car riding uphill. He ran the damn thing into a garage and is trying to get Specialized to replace it. With that much frame damage, why isnít the wheel damaged?
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With that much frame damage, why isn’t the wheel damaged?
From what I used to see when I worked in bike stores, for impacts that occur below a certain speed, one part of the bike yields first, be it wheel, fork, or frame, and that part then absorbs most or all of the impact, leaving the other parts undamaged.

Cino Cinelli has said that he designed his signature fully sloping fork crown with the idea that a bike with a folded frame but an undamaged fork is more likely to be able to be ridden to a controlled stop than a bike with a folded fork.
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Originally Posted by Bald Paul View Post
Only because it's too insulting today to place the "You're Probably Too Stupid To Be On This" sticker on the top tube.
I want a sticker like that! I remember a technical software app, written by a rather cranky engineer, and after "system requirements" the web page had a set of "mental requirements."
Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
He didnít hit a parked car riding uphill. He ran the damn thing into a garage and is trying to get Specialized to replace it. With that much frame damage, why isnít the wheel damaged?
Welcome to the crumple zone.
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From what I used to see when I worked in bike stores, for impacts that occur below a certain speed, one part of the bike yields first, be it wheel, fork, or frame, and that part then absorbs most or all of the impact, leaving the other parts undamaged.
I think the operative word there is ďspeedĒ. This guy said he ran into a parked car while riding uphill. I really doubt there was enough speed to crumple the frame like that at slow uphill speeds. I think the reason the wheel isnít damaged is because it wasnít on the bike...when he crashed it into the garage.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
I think the operative word there is “speed”. This guy said he ran into a parked car while riding uphill. I really doubt there was enough speed to crumple the frame like that at slow uphill speeds. I think the reason the wheel isn’t damaged is because it wasn’t on the bike...when he crashed it into the garage.
On top of his car?
I think I see it now.

​​​​​​​I do think he could do this at a pretty low rate of speed, though, if he hit a high bumper, like on a truck. The word "vehicle" is kind of a tell--admitting you hit a parked truck would be kind of hard.

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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
He didnít hit a parked car riding uphill. He ran the damn thing into a garage and is trying to get Specialized to replace it. With that much frame damage, why isnít the wheel damaged?
He could have ridden it into a parked car... like a protruding camper out of a pickup bed or something else tall... in which case the wheel simply went under, while the rest of the bike took the full impact.

The better question is "uphill???" Just how fast was this yahoo going... "uphill?"
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Practically the same failure mode in this recent thread:

https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-m...-hopeless.html

My guess is, whatever is the first thing to buckle, relieves the force of the collision, and the rest of the parts remain intact.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Or don't hit the parked car.
I thought the bike was self-driving so I took a short nap.
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