Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

TdF - Chain Reaction Calamity In Stage One

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

TdF - Chain Reaction Calamity In Stage One

Old 06-26-21, 03:57 PM
  #1  
juvela
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
juvela's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Alta California
Posts: 11,116
Mentioned: 308 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2637 Post(s)
Liked 972 Times in 756 Posts
TdF - Chain Reaction Calamity In Stage One

-----

https://sports.yahoo.com/spectator-w...144044625.html


-----
juvela is offline  
Old 06-26-21, 04:02 PM
  #2  
Reynolds 
Passista
 
Reynolds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,253

Bikes: 1998 Pinarello Asolo, 1992 KHS Montaña pro, 1980 Raleigh DL-1, IGH Hybrid, IGH Utility

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 741 Post(s)
Liked 401 Times in 225 Posts
Waiting for the "Allez opi omi" memes...
Reynolds is offline  
Old 06-26-21, 08:08 PM
  #3  
Reynolds 
Passista
 
Reynolds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,253

Bikes: 1998 Pinarello Asolo, 1992 KHS Montaña pro, 1980 Raleigh DL-1, IGH Hybrid, IGH Utility

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 741 Post(s)
Liked 401 Times in 225 Posts
First one:

Reynolds is offline  
Old 06-26-21, 08:34 PM
  #4  
rando_couche
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,291
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 196 Post(s)
Liked 108 Times in 72 Posts
Latest news: TdF organizers are pursuing legal action, and the spectator is in hiding.
rando_couche is offline  
Likes For rando_couche:
Old 06-26-21, 10:43 PM
  #5  
canklecat
Me duelen las nalgas
 
canklecat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 13,020

Bikes: Centurion Ironman, Trek 5900, Univega Via Carisma, Globe Carmel

Mentioned: 191 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4269 Post(s)
Liked 2,236 Times in 1,442 Posts
Fans are the best/worst thing about the grand tours.

I kinda miss the 1960s-'70s era of 50 year old, 50 lbs overweight guys like Francois and Salvatore wearing sport coats, running uphill at the same speed as the cyclists who were slowly grinding big gears. If polka dot jerseys were awarded to spectators for longest running sprint alongside the racers, a lot of middle aged men would be ecstatic.

I wouldn't miss the jerkoffs who crowd the narrow lanes, waving their hands, signs and giant foam doodads in front of the cyclists' faces, putting them at constant risk. It sucks when the "fans" become the show, instead of the racers.

The grand tours should have marshals patrolling the climbs and hosing down the worst, most obtrusive interfering fans by using pepper spray gel in their stupid faces.

Last edited by canklecat; 06-27-21 at 10:13 PM.
canklecat is offline  
Old 06-27-21, 04:16 AM
  #6  
verktyg 
verktyg
 
verktyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 3,578

Bikes: Current favorites: 1988 Peugeot Birraritz, 1984 Gitane Super Corsa, 1981 Bianchi Campione Del Mondo, 1992 Paramount OS, 1990 Bianchi Mondiale, 1988 Colnago Technos, 1985 RalieghUSA Team Pro, 1973 Holdsworth

Mentioned: 171 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 826 Post(s)
Liked 562 Times in 364 Posts
Friggin Idiot!

Originally Posted by Reynolds View Post
First one:

I think the person is a she and rumor has it that they already high tailed it on a plane back to Germany. They will have to live with the memory of their stupidly for the rest of their stupid lives.

It was an horrendous crash!

Watching brought back memories of the Frenchman who punched Eddy Merckx in the 1975 TdF ending his chance for a 6th win!!!

verktyg
__________________
Things aren't always what they seem... Don't believe everything you think!

Chas. ;-)

Last edited by verktyg; 06-27-21 at 04:26 AM.
verktyg is offline  
Old 06-27-21, 05:14 AM
  #7  
bikemike73
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: North of Boston
Posts: 461

Bikes: 1973 Schwinn Sports Tourer plus a " few" more :)

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 108 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 83 Times in 67 Posts
HORRIBLE CRASH !!!!!!

Cannot fix stupid

I hope they find the idiot who caused this and jail her for a long while !!!!
bikemike73 is offline  
Likes For bikemike73:
Old 06-27-21, 05:19 AM
  #8  
Bald Paul
Senior Member
 
Bald Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 378
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 174 Post(s)
Liked 254 Times in 127 Posts
If she's ever identified, I'm buying her a ticket to the Daytona 500. She can hold a sign up on the main straight, right in the middle, as the pack approaches.
Bald Paul is offline  
Old 06-27-21, 05:57 AM
  #9  
iab
Senior Member
 
iab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NW Burbs, Chicago
Posts: 10,921
Mentioned: 152 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2294 Post(s)
Liked 1,506 Times in 686 Posts
While certainly not excusing the stupidity of the fan, where is the outrage for the stupidity of the rider who caused the second crash?

Fans in/on the road with signs/flags/pitchforks/foam hands/yellow smoke/whatever is accepted behavior. That accepted behavior has risks. Riding in a peloton also has risks. I don't ever need to see a crash, makes me cringe in the safety of my sofa. But **** happening because of a fan or a rider has been happening since 1903. If you are going to sue someone for stupidity, fans and riders should be fair game.

Or, if the risk is unacceptable, the tour organization should do something. It is their responsibility to police their event. They need to reign in the culture of ******* fans.
iab is offline  
Likes For iab:
Old 06-27-21, 09:18 AM
  #10  
SurferRosa
Señor Member
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 4,659

Bikes: Old school lightweights

Mentioned: 61 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1911 Post(s)
Liked 2,164 Times in 1,205 Posts
I guess Germans terrorizing the French is both classic and vintage.
SurferRosa is offline  
Likes For SurferRosa:
Old 06-27-21, 12:01 PM
  #11  
rhm
multimodal commuter
 
rhm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NJ, NYC, LI
Posts: 19,697

Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...

Mentioned: 536 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1826 Post(s)
Liked 331 Times in 219 Posts
Rumor says she went back to Germany? Does Rumor explain why her sign was in French?

IF fans are allowed to hold up stupid signs (regardless of language), and get this close to the route, and they have done this before, then the problem is not with the fans, it is with the organizers.
__________________
www.rhmsaddles.com.
rhm is offline  
Old 06-27-21, 01:22 PM
  #12  
nlerner
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 14,670
Mentioned: 362 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2392 Post(s)
Liked 2,255 Times in 1,119 Posts
I blame the sign.
nlerner is offline  
Likes For nlerner:
Old 06-27-21, 02:23 PM
  #13  
grizzly59
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 583
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 216 Post(s)
Liked 189 Times in 121 Posts
April 30, 1993- Monica Seles attacked on the court by some loser with a 9" knife. Just a matter of time before some nut has a gripe or wants attention at the TDF..
grizzly59 is offline  
Old 06-27-21, 07:22 PM
  #14  
h_curtis
Senior Member
 
h_curtis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 535

Bikes: 80's Roberts road bike, Nashiki, ECR, Guerciotti and Penny Farthing

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 29 Post(s)
Liked 25 Times in 20 Posts
Ah just a woman spectator trying to get her day in the lights. Seems she got it. Not the brightest bulb, but maybe she got what she wanted.
h_curtis is offline  
Old 06-27-21, 07:45 PM
  #15  
gthomson
Senior Member
 
gthomson's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Great White North
Posts: 616

Bikes: 2013 Cannondale Caad 8, 2010 Opus Fidelio, Peugeot UO14, Trek 800 Anetelope, 1999 Peugeot Dune, Sakai Select, L'Avantage, 1971 Gitane Apache Standard

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 249 Post(s)
Liked 161 Times in 120 Posts
I know tradition is tradition but still wonder why they don't set guidelines on how close fans can get to professional athletes riding in the TDF. These things are usually (I know there are exceptions) under secure parameters in professional N. American sporting events.

Here's what the people had to say about the person who caused the crash (hope this is allowed)

gthomson is offline  
Likes For gthomson:
Old 06-27-21, 08:41 PM
  #16  
Velikus
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: LA
Posts: 57
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
Liked 27 Times in 17 Posts

Sorry, couldn't help myself...
(pic taken off the internet)
Velikus is offline  
Likes For Velikus:
Old 06-27-21, 08:59 PM
  #17  
SurferRosa
Señor Member
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 4,659

Bikes: Old school lightweights

Mentioned: 61 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1911 Post(s)
Liked 2,164 Times in 1,205 Posts
Originally Posted by gthomson View Post
These things are usually ... under secure parameters in professional N. American sporting events.
We saw it at the PGA championship just a couple weeks ago when some creep attempted to grab Phil Mickelson's golf club right out of his hand after an approach to the last green as the crowd engulfed him.
SurferRosa is offline  
Old 06-28-21, 12:11 AM
  #18  
jackbombay
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 969
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 447 Post(s)
Liked 425 Times in 256 Posts
Originally Posted by iab View Post
While certainly not excusing the stupidity of the fan, where is the outrage for the stupidity of the rider who caused the second crash?
A racer accidentally causing a crash is in no way similar to a spectator accidentally causing a crash.

A racer crashing is something that all of the riders know is a possibility, but a "fan" taking out most of the peloton is not something that should be considered acceptable in any way.

I can't imagine how mentally exhausting it would be to have to constantly scan the sides of the route for all the things/people that could possibly ruin your day, or kill you, there needs to be zero tolerance for stuff like this, because it is very specifically, easily, avoidable.
jackbombay is offline  
Likes For jackbombay:
Old 06-28-21, 05:53 AM
  #19  
tiger1964 
Senior Member
 
tiger1964's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 1,397

Bikes: Drysdale/Gitane/Zeus/Masi/Falcon/Palo Alto

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 454 Post(s)
Liked 157 Times in 109 Posts
Originally Posted by Velikus View Post
(pic taken off the internet)
I presume there's already, on some website where it's permitted, of her in front of a certain building on a day this past January.
__________________
Larry:1958 Drysdale, 1961 Gitane Gran Sport, 1974 Zeus track, 1988 Masi Gran Corsa, 1974 Falcon, 1980 Palo Alto. Susan: 1976 Windsor Profesional.
tiger1964 is offline  
Likes For tiger1964:
Old 06-28-21, 06:21 AM
  #20  
satbuilder 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 1,348

Bikes: A few

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 221 Post(s)
Liked 66 Times in 39 Posts
You can run but you can’t hide. Somebody out there knows this person.
satbuilder is offline  
Old 06-28-21, 08:02 AM
  #21  
gearbasher
Senior Member
 
gearbasher's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Sitting on my butt in front of a computer
Posts: 1,077
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 247 Post(s)
Liked 137 Times in 101 Posts
This reminds me of Steve Bartman and the Cubs.
gearbasher is offline  
Likes For gearbasher:
Old 06-28-21, 10:09 AM
  #22  
thinktubes 
weapons-grade bolognium
 
thinktubes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Across the street from Chicago
Posts: 5,625

Bikes: Battaglin Cromor, Ciocc Designer 84, Schwinn Superior 1981

Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 727 Post(s)
Liked 986 Times in 464 Posts
Originally Posted by gearbasher View Post
This reminds me of Steve Bartman and the Cubs.
thinktubes is offline  
Likes For thinktubes:
Old 06-28-21, 10:31 AM
  #23  
rustystrings61 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Greenwood SC USA
Posts: 1,713

Bikes: 2002 Mercian Vincitore, 1982 Mercian Colorado, 1976 Puch Royal X, 1974 Allegro No. 76, 1973 Raleigh Competition, 1973 Raleigh GS, 1971 Gitane Tour de France and others

Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 588 Post(s)
Liked 668 Times in 370 Posts
I'm wondering if this person, when named, will become the next Nathan Fabian ... and it is a pity that so many of those pix are no longer in the thread!

Fortunately, many of those images made it to this collection. Go ahead, enjoy. This will probably be the rest of your day ...

Last edited by rustystrings61; 06-28-21 at 10:43 AM.
rustystrings61 is online now  
Old 06-28-21, 03:40 PM
  #24  
iab
Senior Member
 
iab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NW Burbs, Chicago
Posts: 10,921
Mentioned: 152 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2294 Post(s)
Liked 1,506 Times in 686 Posts
Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
A racer accidentally causing a crash is in no way similar to a spectator accidentally causing a crash.

A racer crashing is something that all of the riders know is a possibility, but a "fan" taking out most of the peloton is not something that should be considered acceptable in any way.

I can't imagine how mentally exhausting it would be to have to constantly scan the sides of the route for all the things/people that could possibly ruin your day, or kill you, there needs to be zero tolerance for stuff like this, because it is very specifically, easily, avoidable.
I watched 80 hours of the 2021 Giro, not a single rider caused a crash ilke stage 1. Hundreds if not thousands of hours riding in a peloton without incident. That crash is not a normal occurance. The road was wide, straight as an arrow, dry, free of any obstruction. The rider that went down was not paying attention, probably touched wheels and in a split second, you got carnage at 40mph.

Fans have always been on the road, a part of the race, always. They are a hazard the organizers minimally marshal. Thinking they could not cause a crash is delusional. It has happened before, but certainly less common than a rider causing a crash.

In both cases the rider and the fan did not intentionally cause the crash. In both cases they were not paying attention. Both are responsible for the crashes they caused. Both are an integral part of the race. Yet people want to ruin the life of one over the other.
iab is offline  
Likes For iab:
Old 06-28-21, 05:12 PM
  #25  
Reynolds 
Passista
 
Reynolds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,253

Bikes: 1998 Pinarello Asolo, 1992 KHS Montaña pro, 1980 Raleigh DL-1, IGH Hybrid, IGH Utility

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 741 Post(s)
Liked 401 Times in 225 Posts
Ruin her life? No. But I think she deserves a civil suit.
Reynolds is offline  
Likes For Reynolds:

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.