Eroica CA Navigation?
04-02-18, 08:03 AM
#1
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: HMB CA
Posts: 56
Bikes: Moots Vamoots, Masi Gran Criterium, Mondia Super, Schwinn Paramount P13, Specialized Crux, Kona Big Kahuna
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times
in
1 Post
Eroica CA Navigation?
First timer here. Probably will "settle" for the 89 miler, as the Heroic route, would make for a really long day on these ancient bones. Question is, how do you navigate for the folks that have done it before? Is course extremely well marked? Using hidden GPS's? C'mon give me your advice.
04-02-18, 08:34 AM
#2
Bike Butcher of Portland
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 11,630
Bikes: It's complicated.
Mentioned: 1299 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4677 Post(s)
Liked 5,790 Times
in
2,279 Posts
My plan is to follow all the people in front of me.
It’s Eroica, don’t need no stinking GPS!
It’s Eroica, don’t need no stinking GPS!
__________________
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
04-02-18, 11:21 AM
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: California
Posts: 982
Bikes: '87 Serotta Colorado,'96 Moots VaMoots, Bertoni MAX, Eddy Merckx Grand Prix Team USA
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 171 Post(s)
Liked 332 Times
in
146 Posts
I found the coastal route very well marked last year and I did not use any electronic navigation.
04-02-18, 01:27 PM
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,696
Bikes: 82 Medici, 2011 Richard Sachs, 2011 Milwaukee Road
Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1946 Post(s)
Liked 2,004 Times
in
1,105 Posts
If you "neglect" to switch of your index shifter, no one will bother you. But if you have a garmin on your bars, you will have to turn in your number. And if they catch you with it out on the road, someone will likely run you into the ditch.
(The course is well marked. Don't worry.)
(The course is well marked. Don't worry.)
04-02-18, 01:59 PM
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Berkeley CA
Posts: 2,533
Bikes: 1981 Ron Cooper, 1974 Cinelli Speciale Corsa, 2000 Gary Fisher Sugar 1, 1986 Miyata 710, 1982 Raleigh "International"
Mentioned: 97 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 929 Post(s)
Liked 1,289 Times
in
486 Posts
I'm using a vintage precursor of the Garmin. It has an ultralight, solar-illuminated display constructed using a super-thin layer of bleached wood pulp and utilizing a GUI created using petroleum and vegetable pigments.
04-02-18, 02:05 PM
#6
Banned
Isn't GPS not period correct? Pen on paper write up a cue sheet, saying distance to a turn and which way to turn there...
04-02-18, 02:42 PM
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,146
Mentioned: 481 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3803 Post(s)
Liked 6,639 Times
in
2,602 Posts
I thought they issue everyone a sextant and a compass at the start?
04-02-18, 02:49 PM
#8
Senior Member
The road card that you'll have stamped at all the checkpoints has a map on it. And the course is really well marked.
When in doubt turn left and go uphill.
When in doubt turn left and go uphill.
04-02-18, 03:40 PM
#9
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: HMB CA
Posts: 56
Bikes: Moots Vamoots, Masi Gran Criterium, Mondia Super, Schwinn Paramount P13, Specialized Crux, Kona Big Kahuna
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times
in
1 Post
Great that's what I needed to know. Having done Dirty Kanza a couple of times there are periods where no one is in visual range and the course markers on the 200 mile course were rearranged by local folks or the weather. You can be out there for a long time without GPS. I'm not a map or cue card kinda guy but I guess I can regress.
04-02-18, 09:30 PM
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 2,249
Bikes: 1964 Legnano Roma Olympiade, 1973 Raleigh Super Course, 1978 Raleigh Super Course, 1978 Peugeot PR10, 2002 Specialized Allez, 2007 Specialized Roubaix, 2013 Culprit Croz Blade
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 741 Post(s)
Liked 818 Times
in
421 Posts
I used my Garmin on my '64 Legnano last time, mainly to keep an eye on heart rate data, while pushing my 42/28 best gear. I have a "mild" heart condition that I have to keep an eye on. I'm riding much friendlier gears this time. I'm keeping the Garmin. Nobody said a word about it last time. Its a fun ride, ride your ride and don't worry about what somebody else is using. I saw an old guy (I'm 68) pushing a carbon Focus up hill with an Eroica number plate. I asked him what was the deal and he told me that carbon was easier to push uphill, as we walked along side by side. The course was very well marked, I had no navigation issues with or without Garmin. If the sight of my Garmin bothers you, dont look at it.
Last edited by Slightspeed; 04-02-18 at 09:34 PM.
04-02-18, 09:55 PM
#11
working on my sandal tan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CID
Posts: 22,627
Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)
Mentioned: 98 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3870 Post(s)
Liked 2,563 Times
in
1,577 Posts
04-02-18, 10:00 PM
#12
Bike Butcher of Portland
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 11,630
Bikes: It's complicated.
Mentioned: 1299 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4677 Post(s)
Liked 5,790 Times
in
2,279 Posts
I used my Garmin on my '64 Legnano last time, mainly to keep an eye on heart rate data, while pushing my 42/28 best gear. I have a "mild" heart condition that I have to keep an eye on. I'm riding much friendlier gears this time. I'm keeping the Garmin. Nobody said a word about it last time. Its a fun ride, ride your ride and don't worry about what somebody else is using. I saw an old guy (I'm 68) pushing a carbon Focus up hill with an Eroica number plate. I asked him what was the deal and he told me that carbon was easier to push uphill, as we walked along side by side. The course was very well marked, I had no navigation issues with or without Garmin. If the sight of my Garmin bothers you, dont look at it.
And no one's gonna stop you for carrying a medically approved device.
__________________
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
04-03-18, 08:37 AM
#13
Senior Member
I used my Garmin 500 last year, no one complained. But no difficulties following the course anyway, I just wanted the ride recorded. I was going so slow while climbing the steepest parts of Cypress Mountain that my Garmin went into auto pause a few times.
04-03-18, 10:47 AM
#14
Bike Butcher of Portland
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 11,630
Bikes: It's complicated.
Mentioned: 1299 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4677 Post(s)
Liked 5,790 Times
in
2,279 Posts
Just hide the thing in your pocket.
__________________
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
04-03-18, 10:52 AM
#15
aka: Dr. Cannondale
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,725
Mentioned: 234 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2152 Post(s)
Liked 3,401 Times
in
1,203 Posts
04-03-18, 11:42 AM
#16
Bike Butcher of Portland
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 11,630
Bikes: It's complicated.
Mentioned: 1299 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4677 Post(s)
Liked 5,790 Times
in
2,279 Posts
Is that a Garmin in your pocket or are you happy to know where you're going?
__________________
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
04-03-18, 03:53 PM
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,146
Mentioned: 481 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3803 Post(s)
Liked 6,639 Times
in
2,602 Posts
I will be stealthily tracking my miles with my Garmin watch, but that won’t help for navigation. Sounds like it won’t be an issue. I’ll just follow the empty bottles of wine that @gugie discards as he makes his way onward.
04-03-18, 04:12 PM
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NW Burbs, Chicago
Posts: 12,047
Mentioned: 201 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3011 Post(s)
Liked 3,786 Times
in
1,405 Posts
GPS?
Heathens.
Wayfind the l'eroica way. Drink a lot of wine. Don't care if you make a wrong turn. Problem solved.
Heathens.
Wayfind the l'eroica way. Drink a lot of wine. Don't care if you make a wrong turn. Problem solved.
04-03-18, 04:27 PM
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 2,421
Bikes: Drysdale/Gitane/Zeus/Masi/Falcon/Palo Alto/Raleigh/Legnano
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 971 Post(s)
Liked 624 Times
in
399 Posts
Leather handlebar bag with a window cut in the top, hide the Garmin inside?
__________________
Larry:1958 Drysdale, 1961 Gitane Gran Sport, 1974 Zeus track, 1988 Masi Gran Corsa, 1974 Falcon, 1980 Palo Alto, 1973 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1974 Legnano. Susan: 1976 Windsor Profesional.
Larry:1958 Drysdale, 1961 Gitane Gran Sport, 1974 Zeus track, 1988 Masi Gran Corsa, 1974 Falcon, 1980 Palo Alto, 1973 Raleigh Gran Sport, 1974 Legnano. Susan: 1976 Windsor Profesional.
04-03-18, 04:34 PM
#20
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NW Burbs, Chicago
Posts: 12,047
Mentioned: 201 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3011 Post(s)
Liked 3,786 Times
in
1,405 Posts
I believe the organizers provide maps and cue sheets hand scribed by monks on calfskin vellum. Gutenberg is off-topic technology.
04-03-18, 05:17 PM
#21
Bike Butcher of Portland
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 11,630
Bikes: It's complicated.
Mentioned: 1299 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4677 Post(s)
Liked 5,790 Times
in
2,279 Posts
I will be stealthily tracking my miles with my Garmin watch, but that won’t help for navigation. Sounds like it won’t be an issue. I’ll just follow the empty bottles of wine that @gugie discards as he makes his way onward.
__________________
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
04-03-18, 05:38 PM
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 786
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 384 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
6 Posts
I only got lost twice on my first Eroica CA. The first wrong turn took me up a steep hill to a locked gate. The second took me back to Paso Robles about 100 miles too soon. So it was easy to figure out where I went wrong and get back on track. The next time I didn't make any wrong turns.
04-03-18, 06:23 PM
#23
Death fork? Naaaah!!
'Life is one big map problem. Learn to read the map, no problem'.
Ranger School, 1977.
Top
Ranger School, 1977.
Top
__________________
You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.
(looking for a picture and not seeing it? Thank the Photobucket fiasco.PM me and I'll link it up.)
You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.
(looking for a picture and not seeing it? Thank the Photobucket fiasco.PM me and I'll link it up.)
04-04-18, 04:55 PM
#24
Crawlin' up, flyin' down
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Democratic Peoples' Republic of Berkeley
Posts: 5,641
Bikes: 1967 Paramount; 1982-ish Ron Cooper; 1978 Eisentraut "A"; two mid-1960s Cinelli Speciale Corsas; and others in various stages of non-rideability.
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1020 Post(s)
Liked 2,509 Times
in
1,049 Posts
Road signage is adequate at worst and pretty darn good at best.
Nobody hassled me about my Garmin 305. (1) It's getting to be pretty "vintage" in its own right and (2) it doesn't provide navigational support. Of course, the fact that I'm 6'3" and weigh 260 may have something to do with it . . . .
Nobody hassled me about my Garmin 305. (1) It's getting to be pretty "vintage" in its own right and (2) it doesn't provide navigational support. Of course, the fact that I'm 6'3" and weigh 260 may have something to do with it . . . .
__________________
"I'm in shape -- round is a shape." Andy Rooney
"I'm in shape -- round is a shape." Andy Rooney
