Frequently lowering my seat post - bad idea?
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Frequently lowering my seat post - bad idea?
Looking ahead to my next car purchase (SUV), high on my priority list is being able to fit my bike standing up in the rear cargo area. The trouble is I have a large frame (58cm) bike and the floor to seat distance measures 37.5" (with the front wheel removed). Many SUVs nowadays seem to have low ceilings for aerodynamics. That may not be a problem if I could just lower the seat all the way down or remove the seat post and seat every time I need to transport my bike (generally at least once a week) but my Cannondale Synapse frame is designed with an integrated clamp (not external) so can't just swap it for a quick-release clamp. So here's my question: Is it a bad idea to adjust the height of my seat post, or remove it if necessary, using a torque wrench every time I transport it? Just fyi, my seat post is carbon.
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The only time you will damage a clamp, or any fastener, is when you overtightening it.
A torque wrench can help.
Undoing and releasing a fastener is the opposite, completely safe, it is impossible to have damage here.
I would remove the entire seatpost/saddle. I do this all the time with mine when I transport more bikes than my platform carrier can take.
A torque wrench can help.
Undoing and releasing a fastener is the opposite, completely safe, it is impossible to have damage here.
I would remove the entire seatpost/saddle. I do this all the time with mine when I transport more bikes than my platform carrier can take.
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Why does it need to be bolt upright? Just lay it on its side.
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I have a small/mid-size SUV (Honda CRV) and I have to remove the front wheel and saddle/seatpost when I carry my bike inside it. I need to have the bike upright since the rest of the cargo area is filled with luggage and/or passenger. Done with proper care for tightening the clamp, it should not cause any problems.
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Sounds logical, but when you lay your bike flat on its side all the space above it becomes unusable wasted space. That's a big chunk of SUV cargo space. For me, the whole advantage of an SUV is having ample cargo space. Aside from my bike I keep a lot of my biking gear in my car in a shelving unit - super convenient. I'd like to keep that alongside my bike. Also, sometimes I need to transport two bikes. Not infrequently other items in addition to my bike and gear.
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The only time you will damage a clamp, or any fastener, is when you overtightening it.
A torque wrench can help.
Undoing and releasing a fastener is the opposite, completely safe, it is impossible to have damage here.
I would remove the entire seatpost/saddle. I do this all the time with mine when I transport more bikes than my platform carrier can take.
A torque wrench can help.
Undoing and releasing a fastener is the opposite, completely safe, it is impossible to have damage here.
I would remove the entire seatpost/saddle. I do this all the time with mine when I transport more bikes than my platform carrier can take.
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Sounds logical, but when you lay your bike flat on its side all the space above it becomes unusable wasted space. That's a big chunk of SUV cargo space. For me, the whole advantage of an SUV is having ample cargo space. Aside from my bike I keep a lot of my biking gear in my car in a shelving unit - super convenient. I'd like to keep that alongside my bike. Also, sometimes I need to transport two bikes. Not infrequently other items in addition to my bike and gear.
Your dilemma is pretty much what I had faced when considering a SUV. Most Full-Sized GM SUVs could support what you are after *IF* you remove the spare tire/storage cover from the interior of the rear cargo area, along with the contents & remove the 3rd row seating. You'll likely need to strap the bicycle upright to a grab handle or interior roof hook.
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what SUV is being eyed up?
Your dilemma is pretty much what I had faced when considering a SUV. Most Full-Sized GM SUVs could support what you are after *IF* you remove the spare tire/storage cover from the interior of the rear cargo area, along with the contents & remove the 3rd row seating. You'll likely need to strap the bicycle upright to a grab handle or interior roof hook.
Your dilemma is pretty much what I had faced when considering a SUV. Most Full-Sized GM SUVs could support what you are after *IF* you remove the spare tire/storage cover from the interior of the rear cargo area, along with the contents & remove the 3rd row seating. You'll likely need to strap the bicycle upright to a grab handle or interior roof hook.
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OK.... Pretty Simple... Don't buy a car that won't fix your bike... Right...
But I can understand this dilemma. There is not much to pick from on an economical point. You being a tall guy will need a bigger SUV anyway though...
But I can understand this dilemma. There is not much to pick from on an economical point. You being a tall guy will need a bigger SUV anyway though...
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Something like the Ford Transit Connect should be able to take several bikes standing upright. Just install the appropriate bike rack.
The commercial version would only have 2 seats, but there are other versions with more seats.
The commercial version would only have 2 seats, but there are other versions with more seats.
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The Transit Connect was the vehicle I originally had in mind — I thought it was perfect for my goal — but I nixed it after being warned about its lackluster long-term reliability especially in comparison to the Honda Accords I’ve been driving the past 25 years.
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A tip when you remove the seatpost - put a ring of electrical tape around the post where the post and seat tube meet - that way it's easy to repeat the seat height time after time...
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They are expensive, but maybe a dropper post will give you enough clearance. So maybe a consideration if your bike doesn't or can't use a quick clamp.
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That said, have you considered a van like the Honda Odyssey or Toyota Sienna? They will definitely fit your bike and probably with both the front wheel in place and the seatpost at it's normal height. If you want all wheel drive, the Toyota is available that with it.
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Mercedes Sprinter Van with High Roof option.
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Or don't buy an SUV unless you are really hauling a lot of stuff all the time off road, get a car that is most practical. Pretty much a good 70% of cars these days can take a hitch (and maybe more) and you can also add roof racks and such so you have plenty of bike carrying options not sure why getting an SUV just to haul around a road bike in the upright and locked position is needed?
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veganbikes has my view on it, I'd rather have a mazda cx30 with a roof rack than an SUV, they'll go all the same spots, get better gas mileage, and while it has less storage it can haul bigger things using the roof rack. I've carried up to 8 sheets of sheetrock or 4 sheets of 3/4" ply on the roof for small projects, once brought home 35 1"x6"x16' tongue and groove boards from 35 miles away to do a ceiling, just had to do the speed limit to keep it safe. Much better way to go in my opinion.
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Sounds logical, but when you lay your bike flat on its side all the space above it becomes unusable wasted space. That's a big chunk of SUV cargo space. For me, the whole advantage of an SUV is having ample cargo space. Aside from my bike I keep a lot of my biking gear in my car in a shelving unit - super convenient. I'd like to keep that alongside my bike. Also, sometimes I need to transport two bikes. Not infrequently other items in addition to my bike and gear.
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When you haul a bike over a few hundred miles of rain, all sorts of crap is literally sandblasting your entire bike.
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At first I was thinking of the Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4, or Mazda CX-5, but I’m not sure their cargo space is deep enough. I want an SUV that can fit my longest bike, which is my touring bike. It has a front rack which makes it 66” long with the front wheel removed. So now I’m investigating medium size SUVs - the Mazda CX-9, Toyota Highlander, Honda Pilot, and Kia Telluride. Not sure I’ll need to go bigger, i.e. Kia Carnival, Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey. Some of these get very pricey. Of course I’m basing my calculations on having all the rear seats folded down.
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Have had 3 minivans: '09 Ody would take my bike straight in no problem through the rear hatch, but the '19 Ody
with the power liftgate in back was 3-4" smaller vertically due to the mechanism to power the liftgate. Ditto my
2022 Sienna so bike has to go in diagonally but fits vertically once in. My saddle is 27.5" above the center of the BB shell
and the bar is about 1-1.5" higher.
All the vans are used with 3d row folded down and the R mid seat as far forward as it would go.
This way a single bike would go in flat with both wheels on or vertically with front wheel removed fitting behind the L 2d row seat.
My LWB bent goes between the 2d row seats and is stablilized with the 3d row seat belt and just rolls into place.
In theory 3 bikes could go in the back of the van vertically with front wheels off and forks clamped to holders with space for
luggage. In the Odys the R mid seat could be 'easily' removed but the Sienna seats are bolted in place (but removable if needed).
Have also put two singles in back and a tandem (or my LWB bent) up the middle between the mid row seats for out of state
centuries in the past.
with the power liftgate in back was 3-4" smaller vertically due to the mechanism to power the liftgate. Ditto my
2022 Sienna so bike has to go in diagonally but fits vertically once in. My saddle is 27.5" above the center of the BB shell
and the bar is about 1-1.5" higher.
All the vans are used with 3d row folded down and the R mid seat as far forward as it would go.
This way a single bike would go in flat with both wheels on or vertically with front wheel removed fitting behind the L 2d row seat.
My LWB bent goes between the 2d row seats and is stablilized with the 3d row seat belt and just rolls into place.
In theory 3 bikes could go in the back of the van vertically with front wheels off and forks clamped to holders with space for
luggage. In the Odys the R mid seat could be 'easily' removed but the Sienna seats are bolted in place (but removable if needed).
Have also put two singles in back and a tandem (or my LWB bent) up the middle between the mid row seats for out of state
centuries in the past.