Taking feel different after high Bicycle Mileage?
10-10-21, 05:08 PM
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Taking long walks feel different after high Bicycle Mileage?
Went for a long 3 mile walk today with my wife after riding everyday this summer at a brisk pace.
About halfway , my legs felt so stiff and wooden, I was tempted to sit down. I started to wonder whether running or jogging home would be easier.
This was the first walk I've had since June. Anyone else experience this after prolonged periods of Bicycling? Got to start mixing walking with riding.
About halfway , my legs felt so stiff and wooden, I was tempted to sit down. I started to wonder whether running or jogging home would be easier.
This was the first walk I've had since June. Anyone else experience this after prolonged periods of Bicycling? Got to start mixing walking with riding.
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10-10-21, 05:12 PM
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Taking long walks feel different after high Bicycle Mileage?
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10-10-21, 05:26 PM
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But you're a runner. Is it so much different from walking? https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...ture.html:foo:
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You need to cross train by doing different physical activities... Doing only cycling alone and nothing else will screw up your body...Humans have evolved to walk not cycle, if you have trouble walking for a few miles then you have a big problem.
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But you're a runner. Is it so much different from walking? https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cycling-discussion/1239536-running-vs-bike-riding-energy-expenditure.html
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I've had something like you describe happen to me. Weird things have been experienced over the decades of riding I've done and I don't think we are alone.
Once after a transcontinental flight I went for a hike and towards the end o wasn't getting cramps but I was feeling decidedly peg-legged. It was weird. We were doing a lot of Creek crossing and log walking. I survived, and I bet I was a bit dehydrated.
I've also had very sore quadriceps from hiking downhill when being in top shape for long road rides. This is not good for mountain climbing or back packing, which I did a lot. After day 2 I'd recover.
I've always had physical jobs that require a lot of walking and non cycling movement.
Because of my experience, I think cross training is very important and I strive to not just rely on cycling.
It also can sometimes be difficult to realize when one is dehydrated or undernourished which can create an assortment of physical symptoms.
Another important point is that cycling, even mountain biking, doesn't provide the right kind of stress on the skeleton to promote strong bones. The older we get, the more important this is!
Once after a transcontinental flight I went for a hike and towards the end o wasn't getting cramps but I was feeling decidedly peg-legged. It was weird. We were doing a lot of Creek crossing and log walking. I survived, and I bet I was a bit dehydrated.
I've also had very sore quadriceps from hiking downhill when being in top shape for long road rides. This is not good for mountain climbing or back packing, which I did a lot. After day 2 I'd recover.
I've always had physical jobs that require a lot of walking and non cycling movement.
Because of my experience, I think cross training is very important and I strive to not just rely on cycling.
It also can sometimes be difficult to realize when one is dehydrated or undernourished which can create an assortment of physical symptoms.
Another important point is that cycling, even mountain biking, doesn't provide the right kind of stress on the skeleton to promote strong bones. The older we get, the more important this is!
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Sounds normal. I ride, run, jog and walk a lot, about an equal split between the four activities. They're all different. If I take a long break from one activity it'll usually feel pretty good at first when I resume, but I'll tire more quickly and my legs will feel dead or sore the next day.
Which will probably happen tomorrow if I join a group ride. I haven't ridden in two weeks, mostly long walks of 5-7 miles and a little jogging, while coping with a pesky minor illness. Sometimes taking a week off from running or cycling helps, but two weeks gets into de-conditioning so it takes a few sessions to regain our form. If Monday's 40-50 mile ride follows my usual pattern, it'll take me about 10 miles just to warm up while my legs feel dead. The actual group ride of 25-30 miles will feel great. The ride home will feel progressively worse until my butt is dragging with my legs aching the final 3-5 miles home because it's all uphill. But that's typical when I don't ride at least once a week.
Regarding cycling being easier on the knees, I hear that a lot but I'm not sure it's valid if our joints are in good condition. If we have arthritis or nagging injuries, sure. But after resuming long walks (3-5 miles) a few years ago while recovering from being hit by a car during a bike ride, I thought my hip joints were shot. Nope, just sore muscles from not walking much.
After resuming running around November 2020 I soon developed sore knees, shins, hips, etc. Again, I figured it was joint degradation. I'm 63 with osteopenia, etc. But a full body bone scan showed no problems below the hips. Above the hips, sure -- a car wreck 20 years ago cracked six vertebrae in my lumber, thoracic and cervical regions, with permanent C1-C2 damage. But the pain in my hips and legs were just soft tissue pain from poor running form.
I got some Under Armour shoes with built-in sensor to track my cadence, stride length, footstrike angle, etc., which confirmed that my running form sucked. I was overstriding and heel-striking heavily. Under Armour shoes with the built-in Bluetooth sensor sync with MapMyRun/Walk apps for real-time voice coaching. That nudged me toward better running form. My leg muscles strengthened, the pain in the hips, knees and shins stopped.
Pretty comparable to an inappropriate bike fit causing various pains. Fix the ergonomics, often the pain clears up.
Which will probably happen tomorrow if I join a group ride. I haven't ridden in two weeks, mostly long walks of 5-7 miles and a little jogging, while coping with a pesky minor illness. Sometimes taking a week off from running or cycling helps, but two weeks gets into de-conditioning so it takes a few sessions to regain our form. If Monday's 40-50 mile ride follows my usual pattern, it'll take me about 10 miles just to warm up while my legs feel dead. The actual group ride of 25-30 miles will feel great. The ride home will feel progressively worse until my butt is dragging with my legs aching the final 3-5 miles home because it's all uphill. But that's typical when I don't ride at least once a week.
Regarding cycling being easier on the knees, I hear that a lot but I'm not sure it's valid if our joints are in good condition. If we have arthritis or nagging injuries, sure. But after resuming long walks (3-5 miles) a few years ago while recovering from being hit by a car during a bike ride, I thought my hip joints were shot. Nope, just sore muscles from not walking much.
After resuming running around November 2020 I soon developed sore knees, shins, hips, etc. Again, I figured it was joint degradation. I'm 63 with osteopenia, etc. But a full body bone scan showed no problems below the hips. Above the hips, sure -- a car wreck 20 years ago cracked six vertebrae in my lumber, thoracic and cervical regions, with permanent C1-C2 damage. But the pain in my hips and legs were just soft tissue pain from poor running form.
I got some Under Armour shoes with built-in sensor to track my cadence, stride length, footstrike angle, etc., which confirmed that my running form sucked. I was overstriding and heel-striking heavily. Under Armour shoes with the built-in Bluetooth sensor sync with MapMyRun/Walk apps for real-time voice coaching. That nudged me toward better running form. My leg muscles strengthened, the pain in the hips, knees and shins stopped.
Pretty comparable to an inappropriate bike fit causing various pains. Fix the ergonomics, often the pain clears up.
10-10-21, 10:18 PM
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I've had something like you describe happen to me. Weird things have been experienced over the decades of riding I've done and I don't think we are alone.
Once after a transcontinental flight I went for a hike and towards the end o wasn't getting cramps but I was feeling decidedly peg-legged. It was weird. We were doing a lot of Creek crossing and log walking. I survived, and I bet I was a bit dehydrated.
I've also had very sore quadriceps from hiking downhill when being in top shape for long road rides. This is not good for mountain climbing or back packing, which I did a lot. After day 2 I'd recover.
I've always had physical jobs that require a lot of walking and non cycling movement.
Because of my experience, I think cross training is very important and I strive to not just rely on cycling.
It also can sometimes be difficult to realize when one is dehydrated or undernourished which can create an assortment of physical symptoms.
Another important point is that cycling, even mountain biking, doesn't provide the right kind of stress on the skeleton to promote strong bones. The older we get, the more important this is!
Once after a transcontinental flight I went for a hike and towards the end o wasn't getting cramps but I was feeling decidedly peg-legged. It was weird. We were doing a lot of Creek crossing and log walking. I survived, and I bet I was a bit dehydrated.
I've also had very sore quadriceps from hiking downhill when being in top shape for long road rides. This is not good for mountain climbing or back packing, which I did a lot. After day 2 I'd recover.
I've always had physical jobs that require a lot of walking and non cycling movement.
Because of my experience, I think cross training is very important and I strive to not just rely on cycling.
It also can sometimes be difficult to realize when one is dehydrated or undernourished which can create an assortment of physical symptoms.
Another important point is that cycling, even mountain biking, doesn't provide the right kind of stress on the skeleton to promote strong bones. The older we get, the more important this is!
10-10-21, 10:21 PM
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Sounds normal. I ride, run, jog and walk a lot, about an equal split between the four activities. They're all different. If I take a long break from one activity it'll usually feel pretty good at first when I resume, but I'll tire more quickly and my legs will feel dead or sore the next day.
Which will probably happen tomorrow if I join a group ride. I haven't ridden in two weeks, mostly long walks of 5-7 miles and a little jogging, while coping with a pesky minor illness. Sometimes taking a week off from running or cycling helps, but two weeks gets into de-conditioning so it takes a few sessions to regain our form. If Monday's 40-50 mile ride follows my usual pattern, it'll take me about 10 miles just to warm up while my legs feel dead. The actual group ride of 25-30 miles will feel great. The ride home will feel progressively worse until my butt is dragging with my legs aching the final 3-5 miles home because it's all uphill. But that's typical when I don't ride at least once a week.
Regarding cycling being easier on the knees, I hear that a lot but I'm not sure it's valid if our joints are in good condition. If we have arthritis or nagging injuries, sure. But after resuming long walks (3-5 miles) a few years ago while recovering from being hit by a car during a bike ride, I thought my hip joints were shot. Nope, just sore muscles from not walking much.
After resuming running around November 2020 I soon developed sore knees, shins, hips, etc. Again, I figured it was joint degradation. I'm 63 with osteopenia, etc. But a full body bone scan showed no problems below the hips. Above the hips, sure -- a car wreck 20 years ago cracked six vertebrae in my lumber, thoracic and cervical regions, with permanent C1-C2 damage. But the pain in my hips and legs were just soft tissue pain from poor running form.
I got some Under Armour shoes with built-in sensor to track my cadence, stride length, footstrike angle, etc., which confirmed that my running form sucked. I was overstriding and heel-striking heavily. Under Armour shoes with the built-in Bluetooth sensor sync with MapMyRun/Walk apps for real-time voice coaching. That nudged me toward better running form. My leg muscles strengthened, the pain in the hips, knees and shins stopped.
Pretty comparable to an inappropriate bike fit causing various pains. Fix the ergonomics, often the pain clears up.
Which will probably happen tomorrow if I join a group ride. I haven't ridden in two weeks, mostly long walks of 5-7 miles and a little jogging, while coping with a pesky minor illness. Sometimes taking a week off from running or cycling helps, but two weeks gets into de-conditioning so it takes a few sessions to regain our form. If Monday's 40-50 mile ride follows my usual pattern, it'll take me about 10 miles just to warm up while my legs feel dead. The actual group ride of 25-30 miles will feel great. The ride home will feel progressively worse until my butt is dragging with my legs aching the final 3-5 miles home because it's all uphill. But that's typical when I don't ride at least once a week.
Regarding cycling being easier on the knees, I hear that a lot but I'm not sure it's valid if our joints are in good condition. If we have arthritis or nagging injuries, sure. But after resuming long walks (3-5 miles) a few years ago while recovering from being hit by a car during a bike ride, I thought my hip joints were shot. Nope, just sore muscles from not walking much.
After resuming running around November 2020 I soon developed sore knees, shins, hips, etc. Again, I figured it was joint degradation. I'm 63 with osteopenia, etc. But a full body bone scan showed no problems below the hips. Above the hips, sure -- a car wreck 20 years ago cracked six vertebrae in my lumber, thoracic and cervical regions, with permanent C1-C2 damage. But the pain in my hips and legs were just soft tissue pain from poor running form.
I got some Under Armour shoes with built-in sensor to track my cadence, stride length, footstrike angle, etc., which confirmed that my running form sucked. I was overstriding and heel-striking heavily. Under Armour shoes with the built-in Bluetooth sensor sync with MapMyRun/Walk apps for real-time voice coaching. That nudged me toward better running form. My leg muscles strengthened, the pain in the hips, knees and shins stopped.
Pretty comparable to an inappropriate bike fit causing various pains. Fix the ergonomics, often the pain clears up.
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I walk my dog 3 miles a day (which adds up to 1000+ miles/year) and after do my ride. Never experienced your issue. You may want to do more stretching or get a dog.
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Cycling doesn't require the leg to move through it's entire range of motion, ROM.
Specifically, the knee joint doesn't fully extend.
It was explained to me that this is the last 5% of ROM.
Because of this, the muscle that is engaged in that 5% of ROM atrophies if cycling is the only exercise.
That is why a strong cyclist will suffer, unless something is done otherwise.
It is possible to wear light leg weights and do full extensions, but who does that?
Anyway, for your consideration.
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Stretching and inversion boards isn't cross training and it's not going to help....You said you had trouble walking for longer distances, which simply means lack of fitness in those areas.. So what you need to do is start doing is more walking and maybe some strength training such as lifting weights and bodyweight calisthenics...Lower body exercises such as squats, lunges, step ups and some upper body strength training would help you a lot more than an inversion board or stretching.
