Pro cycling. Sagan, like him or dislike him?
04-05-13, 09:26 PM
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Honestly, are we all a bunch of constipated blue-hairs?
He is 23 y/o, young, lot of growing up to do, and doing it in the glare of top-level pro cycling. Thank goodness the stupid things I did at that age weren't endlessly dissected by a bunch of armchair moralists.
Like lots of 23 year olds, he'll make mistakes. He's smart enough to only make each mistake once.
In the 99.9% of the time that he is not making mistakes, he's an exciting rider. He has power, can climb, can sprint, needs to develop some TT, needs to learn tactics. I'm enjoying watching his journey.
He is 23 y/o, young, lot of growing up to do, and doing it in the glare of top-level pro cycling. Thank goodness the stupid things I did at that age weren't endlessly dissected by a bunch of armchair moralists.
Like lots of 23 year olds, he'll make mistakes. He's smart enough to only make each mistake once.
In the 99.9% of the time that he is not making mistakes, he's an exciting rider. He has power, can climb, can sprint, needs to develop some TT, needs to learn tactics. I'm enjoying watching his journey.
04-07-13, 09:41 AM
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But if it was a girl grabbing another girls ass on the podium, it's alright..... right????
04-07-13, 03:33 PM
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Love him.
Not condoning the groping incident at all, that was definitely a huge error in judgment on his part. But the way he rides is incredibly entertaining.
Not condoning the groping incident at all, that was definitely a huge error in judgment on his part. But the way he rides is incredibly entertaining.
04-08-13, 01:29 PM
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That's exactly what came to mind when they were talking about Sagan autographing some girl's breast
How long has this been going on?
How long has this been going on?
04-08-13, 02:42 PM
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04-08-13, 06:11 PM
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That's exactly what came to mind when they were talking about Sagan autographing some girl's breast
How long has this been going on?
How long has this been going on?
Last year the girl had a piece of paper to sign and got an unwelcome mural across her chest. In my book it borderlines on assault.
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04-08-13, 06:45 PM
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^This has gone a bit off track.
I think Keith99 brought up Coppi and Anquetil because of the questionable morality of some of their romantic entanglements.
Coppi, though married, went after another man's wife.
Anquetil maintained a menage a trois with his wife, and wife's daughter.
I think Keith99 brought up Coppi and Anquetil because of the questionable morality of some of their romantic entanglements.
Coppi, though married, went after another man's wife.
Anquetil maintained a menage a trois with his wife, and wife's daughter.
04-09-13, 10:35 AM
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Look what he started!............. She can pinch mine any time.
04-09-13, 11:36 AM
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^This has gone a bit off track.
I think Keith99 brought up Coppi and Anquetil because of the questionable morality of some of their romantic entanglements.
Coppi, though married, went after another man's wife.
Anquetil maintained a menage a trois with his wife, and wife's daughter.
I think Keith99 brought up Coppi and Anquetil because of the questionable morality of some of their romantic entanglements.
Coppi, though married, went after another man's wife.
Anquetil maintained a menage a trois with his wife, and wife's daughter.
Interestingly Anquetil was rather disliked, for other reasons, and Coppi seems to have been worshipped.
04-09-13, 12:01 PM
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Actually, Coppi's affair seriously dented his popularity. Until then he had been worshipped. Leaving his wife lost him a lot of support. He was never as great a hero again until his early death sanctified him once more.
04-09-13, 12:07 PM
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There is a difference - on the book cover the girl happily offered and Anquetil happily obliged. Here JA gave fans exactly what they wanted, even if it pushed the boundaries of good taste. In my book it's raucous joke taken uncomfortably public.
Last year the girl had a piece of paper to sign and got an unwelcome mural across her chest. In my book it borderlines on assault.
Last year the girl had a piece of paper to sign and got an unwelcome mural across her chest. In my book it borderlines on assault.
04-09-13, 12:09 PM
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04-09-13, 03:18 PM
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04-09-13, 08:51 PM
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Like the celebrations! If Cancellara and the girl don't care, why should it bother anyone else? If it does, he should apologize. Should the team reprimand him or cycling fine him? Go ahead, but in my opinion that would be like giving the middle finger to a bad driver...it won't change a thing.
As for T-shirt? Nope, don't dig that, but that's just like my opinion, man. Live and let live! Vive le tour!
As for T-shirt? Nope, don't dig that, but that's just like my opinion, man. Live and let live! Vive le tour!
04-10-13, 10:22 AM
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04-10-13, 11:21 AM
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https://velonews.competitor.com/2013/...ncident_281536
Good thing Sagan has better people around him than some of the dullards on this forum.
Good thing Sagan has better people around him than some of the dullards on this forum.
04-10-13, 12:01 PM
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https://velonews.competitor.com/2013/...ncident_281536
Good thing Sagan has better people around him than some of the dullards on this forum.
Good thing Sagan has better people around him than some of the dullards on this forum.
04-10-13, 02:21 PM
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Like the celebrations! If Cancellara and the girl don't care, why should it bother anyone else? If it does, he should apologize. Should the team reprimand him or cycling fine him? Go ahead, but in my opinion that would be like giving the middle finger to a bad driver...it won't change a thing.
As for T-shirt? Nope, don't dig that, but that's just like my opinion, man. Live and let live! Vive le tour!
As for T-shirt? Nope, don't dig that, but that's just like my opinion, man. Live and let live! Vive le tour!
I'm not going to blame anyone for a 'picture' like that one.
04-10-13, 02:39 PM
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I think it's very unlikely it's a photoshop job.
I also don't give two craps what he wears.
04-10-13, 02:51 PM
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I don't think there was any photoshop job. It all just all fitted nicely to point in the same direction. Grabbing a$$ (uncalled for), signing boobs/cleavage (when all what he was offered to sign was a piece of paper) and that obnoxious t-shirt.
Anyway, I think he's young and kinda immature, and hopefully has been talked to by advisors regarding decorum.
Really glad he apologized to that girl. And publicly too. It was the right thing to do.
Anyway, I think he's young and kinda immature, and hopefully has been talked to by advisors regarding decorum.
Really glad he apologized to that girl. And publicly too. It was the right thing to do.