How easy is it to overhaul Campy Ergo shifters?
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How easy is it to overhaul Campy Ergo shifters?
So my Campy 9 speed shifters still work ..... but the shifts have lost their mechanical feel. I can sense that a rebuild is in order in the near future.
Should I undertake this rebuild myself?
Are parts available?
How 'bout parts to convert right shifter to 10speed?
This is not a job for my closest bike shops - who is doing this repair at an affordable price?
Is there a BF'er offering this repair?
Thanks in advance.
Here is the bike wearing the 9 speed triple.
Should I undertake this rebuild myself?
Are parts available?
How 'bout parts to convert right shifter to 10speed?
This is not a job for my closest bike shops - who is doing this repair at an affordable price?
Is there a BF'er offering this repair?
Thanks in advance.
Here is the bike wearing the 9 speed triple.
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So my Campy 9 speed shifters still work ..... but the shifts have lost their mechanical feel. I can sense that a rebuild is in order in the near future.
Should I undertake this rebuild myself?
Are parts available?
How 'bout parts to convert right shifter to 10speed?
This is not a job for my closest bike shops - who is doing this repair at an affordable price?
Is there a BF'er offering this repair?
Thanks in advance.
Here is the bike wearing the 9 speed triple.
Should I undertake this rebuild myself?
Are parts available?
How 'bout parts to convert right shifter to 10speed?
This is not a job for my closest bike shops - who is doing this repair at an affordable price?
Is there a BF'er offering this repair?
Thanks in advance.
Here is the bike wearing the 9 speed triple.
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Do you have any experience as a watchmaker?
It's not quite that bad, but getting the last spring in the correct place can require a lot of patience. I did it once. That was enough for me.
If you're not hung up on the whole sustainability thing, a much easier solution for not much more money is to replace the entire shift assembly. You can get a 10-speed Record-level shift assembly for about $100. Then you just swap over your hood, clamp, and brake blade. I'm pretty sure you could handle it yourself, but if you don't want to I know a guy in Beaverton (me) who would do it for you the next time you're in the area. I hear @gugie is thinking about having another Ride, Wrench, and Grill this summer.
It's not quite that bad, but getting the last spring in the correct place can require a lot of patience. I did it once. That was enough for me.
If you're not hung up on the whole sustainability thing, a much easier solution for not much more money is to replace the entire shift assembly. You can get a 10-speed Record-level shift assembly for about $100. Then you just swap over your hood, clamp, and brake blade. I'm pretty sure you could handle it yourself, but if you don't want to I know a guy in Beaverton (me) who would do it for you the next time you're in the area. I hear @gugie is thinking about having another Ride, Wrench, and Grill this summer.
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@AndyK -
Changing tubulars and clinchers = no prob.
I can adjust brakes (almost all) and friction shifters (usually) with skill.
Fenders can be tough, given a fender line and aesthetic requirement.
Hubs and BB and pedals are important enough to get done well.
Sounds like watchmaker is not in my skilz sets.
Shifters are important enough to be done well.
Body swap sounds good. Certainly more predictable in results.
I should check sourcing options.
Changing tubulars and clinchers = no prob.
I can adjust brakes (almost all) and friction shifters (usually) with skill.
Fenders can be tough, given a fender line and aesthetic requirement.
Hubs and BB and pedals are important enough to get done well.
Sounds like watchmaker is not in my skilz sets.
Shifters are important enough to be done well.
Body swap sounds good. Certainly more predictable in results.
I should check sourcing options.
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I've done a few ergo overhauls now. I prepped for the first one by watching a few of the You Tube videos that cover this subject. If you choose to take this on I'd recommend you proceed slowly and lay out the parts in the sequence you remove them. Be careful to not miss anything....some of the thin spacers (washers?) are easy to overlook when they are "stuck" to adjacent parts with grease. I documented several details, particularly the springs, with pictures so I had a reference for the reassembly. Installing the springs is the most challenging task, but relatively easy after you've done it once.
I overhauled an 8-Speed Ergo yesterday afternoon in preparation for moving it to another bike. I gave all the bits a thorough cleaning and fresh grease. I installed new g-springs while I had it apart.
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I overhauled an 8-Speed Ergo yesterday afternoon in preparation for moving it to another bike. I gave all the bits a thorough cleaning and fresh grease. I installed new g-springs while I had it apart.
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I've done a few ergo overhauls now. I prepped for the first one by watching a few of the You Tube videos that cover this subject. If you choose to take this on I'd recommend you proceed slowly and lay out the parts in the sequence you remove them. Be careful to not miss anything....some of the thin spacers (washers?) are easy to overlook when they are "stuck" to adjacent parts with grease. I documented several details, particularly the springs, with pictures so I had a reference for the reassembly. Installing the springs is the most challenging task, but relatively easy after you've done it once.
I overhauled an 8-Speed Ergo yesterday afternoon in preparation for moving it to another bike. I gave all the bits a thorough cleaning and fresh grease. I installed new g-springs while I had it apart.Dean
I overhauled an 8-Speed Ergo yesterday afternoon in preparation for moving it to another bike. I gave all the bits a thorough cleaning and fresh grease. I installed new g-springs while I had it apart.Dean
Did you buy parts from Branford? or where?
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Thanks to all - excellent help.
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Parts came from one of the UK suppliers....I believe it was Wiggle, but it has been a while now. I purchased some extra carriers and g-springs when I realized parts for the early....8 speed in my case.....models were getting hard to find. I was not aware of Branford at the time. Given their proximity to your location....and mine (Port Angeles)....I'd sure check with them.
FWIW, one of my attractions to the Ergo levers is they are relatively easy to overhaul/repair. My experience doing the same with Shimano "Brifters" is not so good.
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FWIW, one of my attractions to the Ergo levers is they are relatively easy to overhaul/repair. My experience doing the same with Shimano "Brifters" is not so good.
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I've found you can give the G-springs a tweak to restore some life to them.
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I have done second gen Ergos in 10 speed, twice. Branford was a great help with advice and parts. I don't know of anyone else that has as complete service/parts.
It really isn't than bad. I would not work on a time piece but the levers were not really a problem. I do have an 8V set with the pointy hoods that will take the same g spring as the second gen Ergo but I think they swap left and right sides. Info on Branford site.
The key is the proper indexing of the parts in assembly. Don't force anything. The other significant challenge is the installation of the spring. Again it is about positioning the parts in the right orientation while assembly.
The difference between many of the Ergo''s are the markings on the blade. Chorus and Record are the same with that exception. The differences between the different versions are documented on Branfords site.
I say go for it!
It really isn't than bad. I would not work on a time piece but the levers were not really a problem. I do have an 8V set with the pointy hoods that will take the same g spring as the second gen Ergo but I think they swap left and right sides. Info on Branford site.
The key is the proper indexing of the parts in assembly. Don't force anything. The other significant challenge is the installation of the spring. Again it is about positioning the parts in the right orientation while assembly.
The difference between many of the Ergo''s are the markings on the blade. Chorus and Record are the same with that exception. The differences between the different versions are documented on Branfords site.
I say go for it!
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Check the official Campagnolo YouTube Channel. If I remember correctly they had a video doing repairs and such. Not sure if exactly what you are doing is there or not but worth a look.
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The internet can tell you how to get the G springs out. As for tweaking them, you can see the part that bears on the indexing mechanism (the bit that's the difference between a C and a G) gets bent away from it, bend it back.
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How hard is it to remove/transfer the shifter blades if you do the whole assembly? I have a powershift set of ergos that I'd like to convert to ultrashift.
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I recently became the owner of 8 speed Campy Ergo power shifters.
I did not see this forum had a separate category for these shifters so I posted in the mechanic section.
For me, my LEFT shifter would not return to the small chainring. After researching, was informed it probably was...are you ready...the return spring
I sent it out to Pat at Bradford on Friday. I will keep all posted on the results.
If I had come to this section first..........I would have taken up Andy Ks offer and sent it to him and paid him
I did not see this forum had a separate category for these shifters so I posted in the mechanic section.
For me, my LEFT shifter would not return to the small chainring. After researching, was informed it probably was...are you ready...the return spring
I sent it out to Pat at Bradford on Friday. I will keep all posted on the results.
If I had come to this section first..........I would have taken up Andy Ks offer and sent it to him and paid him
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I just converted my 10V 2nd gen right Ergo to 9v by buying a right Ergo that was broken with all the parts attached. The key is in the video above. I found the down shift toothed ring has a front and back, It needs to be oriented correctly. In addition, the sequence of moving the up shift is key to not having to fight the spring upon installation. The last key is the positioning of the part the spring is locked into. I mounted the Allen key used on front in a vice for mounting the assembly. Made the installation much easier.
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Left overs. Note the downshift lever ring is in backwards. If one of your bearings falls out, there is a thick washer that goes between them. You should be able to assemble and tighten the screw and still shift fine.
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Left overs. Note the downshift lever ring is in backwards. If one of your bearings falls out, there is a thick washer that goes between them. You should be able to assemble and tighten the screw and still shift fine.
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UPDATE
I received my " Brifter" back from Pat at Branford Bike in about 8 days.!!!!
Works perfect!!!
VERY REASONABLE in the repair price !!!!
Thank YOU Pat at Branford Bike.
I would HIGHLY recommend !!
I received my " Brifter" back from Pat at Branford Bike in about 8 days.!!!!
Works perfect!!!
VERY REASONABLE in the repair price !!!!
Thank YOU Pat at Branford Bike.
I would HIGHLY recommend !!