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Who wants to warn me not to waste my money?
I've noticed when I ride with my head turned to the side that everything gets a lot quieter. But it's probably better to usually face forward
Maybe this would improve safety? Who has tried these?
Wind Noise
Maybe this would improve safety? Who has tried these?
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Finally! I've been having trouble steering with my fingers in my ears.
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I've noticed when I ride with my head turned to the side that everything gets a lot quieter. But it's probably better to usually face forward
Maybe this would improve safety? Who has tried these?
Wind Noise
Maybe this would improve safety? Who has tried these?
Wind Noise
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A friend of mine uses these and seems to like them. She just did coast-to-coast Southern Tier (supported) with them on her helmet.
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I've noticed when I ride with my head turned to the side that everything gets a lot quieter. But it's probably better to usually face forward
Maybe this would improve safety? Who has tried these?
Wind Noise
Maybe this would improve safety? Who has tried these?
Wind Noise
However here's what I do know:
(FTA) "...noise heard by a person looking directly into the wind is basically of a low frequency nature,
with much of its energy concentrated in a certain frequency region."
The sound sensitive parts of your hearing are organs, and they have a certain amount of work they can do (let's call it useful lifespan). And any time you are exposing your hearing to a specific frequency, or localized frequency cluster repeatedly over time you're using up the useful lifespan of that organ's sensitivity much faster.
I question the specific science of the article a little, however the general principle is that of Signal (sound of an approaching vehicle) v. noise (wind aka quasi-random/focused frequencies and moderately high sound pressure levels). The more you can reduce the "noise" the more signal you will hear.
If this product doesn't put a huge dent in your wallet that you needed for food or something, I say protect your hearing because it is all you will ever get. Once your sensitivity to that low to mid frequency range is damaged or gone, it's gone and you can't get it back. That's why people in their 50s start saying "What?" a lot when people ask them questions at the grocer or library you know, even though 50-something is not very old.
PS this cat ear is essentially the same idea behind a wind sock, which are used when news reporters or filmmakers need to work in outdoor conditions (as below).
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I've never tried them, and I don't know if it would increase your safety in terms of the physical hazards of sharing road space with vehicles.
However here's what I do know:
(FTA) "...noise heard by a person looking directly into the wind is basically of a low frequency nature,
with much of its energy concentrated in a certain frequency region."
The sound sensitive parts of your hearing are organs, and they have a certain amount of work they can do (let's call it useful lifespan). And any time you are exposing your hearing to a specific frequency, or localized frequency cluster repeatedly over time you're using up the useful lifespan of that organ's sensitivity much faster.
I question the specific science of the article a little, however the general principle is that of Signal (sound of an approaching vehicle) v. noise (wind aka quasi-random/focused frequencies and moderately high sound pressure levels). The more you can reduce the "noise" the more signal you will hear.
If this product doesn't put a huge dent in your wallet that you needed for food or something, I say protect your hearing because it is all you will ever get. Once your sensitivity to that low to mid frequency range is damaged or gone, it's gone and you can't get it back. That's why people in their 50s start saying "What?" a lot when people ask them questions at the grocer or library you know, even though 50-something is not very old.
PS this cat ear is essentially the same idea behind a wind sock, which are used when news reporters or filmmakers need to work in outdoor conditions (as below).
However here's what I do know:
(FTA) "...noise heard by a person looking directly into the wind is basically of a low frequency nature,
with much of its energy concentrated in a certain frequency region."
The sound sensitive parts of your hearing are organs, and they have a certain amount of work they can do (let's call it useful lifespan). And any time you are exposing your hearing to a specific frequency, or localized frequency cluster repeatedly over time you're using up the useful lifespan of that organ's sensitivity much faster.
I question the specific science of the article a little, however the general principle is that of Signal (sound of an approaching vehicle) v. noise (wind aka quasi-random/focused frequencies and moderately high sound pressure levels). The more you can reduce the "noise" the more signal you will hear.
If this product doesn't put a huge dent in your wallet that you needed for food or something, I say protect your hearing because it is all you will ever get. Once your sensitivity to that low to mid frequency range is damaged or gone, it's gone and you can't get it back. That's why people in their 50s start saying "What?" a lot when people ask them questions at the grocer or library you know, even though 50-something is not very old.
PS this cat ear is essentially the same idea behind a wind sock, which are used when news reporters or filmmakers need to work in outdoor conditions (as below).
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You might be thinking of a weather vane, which would indicate wind direction (edit: yes, I get what you mean now.... sometimes a weather vane is a wind sock... a different thing with the same name). A microphone Wind sock is an accessory for sound recording, which works on the exact same principle as the Cat Ears. The photo I posted probably wasn't very clear, try this:
Windsocks
It slips over the microphone, but in no way does it reduce the decibels of sound that reaches the microphone; it just baffles (or dissipates) undesirable noise like wind so that desirable noise (like a newscaster speaking) gets recorded better.
All this to say, the Cat Ears probably do work because this technology/science is not new... it's been used for decades in the sound recording industry. If I had the cash lying around, I'd love to try something like this; and if you decide to try them I'd be very interested in your experience with them.
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This makes one more piece of essential and expensive equipment that everybody must wear--because riding a bike is so bloody uncomfortable and dangerous.
For other wastes of money (for transportation bicyclists), I nominate::
Any other candidates for money wasters?
For other wastes of money (for transportation bicyclists), I nominate::
- padded short pants
- $400 special shoes
- $500 pedals that snap into the special shoes
Any other candidates for money wasters?
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Padded shorts are not a waste of money, and I don't think that these would be either. Wind noise annoys the hell out of me when I am riding and ruins the enjoyment of the ride. Maybe I need HTFU or maybe I will try a set of these and see if they work.
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This makes one more piece of essential and expensive equipment that everybody must wear--because riding a bike is so bloody uncomfortable and dangerous.
For other wastes of money (for transportation bicyclists), I nominate::
Any other candidates for money wasters?
For other wastes of money (for transportation bicyclists), I nominate::
- padded short pants
- $400 special shoes
- $500 pedals that snap into the special shoes
Any other candidates for money wasters?
I was looking for somebody to say they tried it and it does not work - or is real uncomfortable - or hard to put on - or comes off while riding.
It doesn't sound like you tried this product, so I'm not sure you have much of value to offer.
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What IS dangerous to cyclists - wind noise? Be real. The product in the OP reference is a "solution" only to a safety "problem" that they fabricated to promote their "solution". Price is irrelevant to the non-existent risk reduction offered by this product.
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I find my hearing to be among my most important senses from a safety standpoint. Under some conditions I often notice a risk by hearing it before I see it. So it just follows that hearing better would enhance that effect.
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Even given your situation where hearing something may reduce your bicycling risk", it does not follow that generalized "wind noise" attenuation would enable you to improve your hearing of any specific hazardous warnings. The OP article's references to fatality stats are totally irrelevant fear mongering with zero relationship to the product being promoted.
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Maybe expensive gear and special skills are needed for long distance touring or "sport" cycling--but for everyday transportation bicycling--the type discussed on this forum--just get your butt on the bike and go.
As for this hearing protection thing--I would have taken it for an Onion article if I ran across it on the web. For thousands of years, people have been outside in the wind, but it is only now "discovered" what a great risk this is to their very lives!
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I will sell you a set of these for only $75. Guaranteed to both protect your ears from dangerous wind gusts and allow you to hear the approach of life-threatening risk!
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Here's somebody who could definitely use some ear protection on his next bike ride.
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It's the great marketing myth that riding a bike is uncomfortable and very dangerous, and you must inves hundreds of dollars to enjoy the "sport." Unfortunately, this turns people away from cycling, as they think it takes some kind of special knowledge and effort to partake.
Maybe expensive gear and special skills are needed for long distance touring or "sport" cycling--but for everyday transportation bicycling--the type discussed on this forum--just get your butt on the bike and go.
As for this hearing protection thing--I would have taken it for an Onion article if I ran across it on the web. For thousands of years, people have been outside in the wind, but it is only now "discovered" what a great risk this is to their very lives!
Maybe expensive gear and special skills are needed for long distance touring or "sport" cycling--but for everyday transportation bicycling--the type discussed on this forum--just get your butt on the bike and go.
As for this hearing protection thing--I would have taken it for an Onion article if I ran across it on the web. For thousands of years, people have been outside in the wind, but it is only now "discovered" what a great risk this is to their very lives!
edit: I also wear padded shorts - not because of any great marketing. An ass made that decision.
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It's the great marketing myth that riding a bike is uncomfortable and very dangerous, and you must inves hundreds of dollars to enjoy the "sport." Unfortunately, this turns people away from cycling, as they think it takes some kind of special knowledge and effort to partake.
Maybe expensive gear and special skills are needed for long distance touring or "sport" cycling--but for everyday transportation bicycling--the type discussed on this forum--just get your butt on the bike and go.
As for this hearing protection thing--I would have taken it for an Onion article if I ran across it on the web. For thousands of years, people have been outside in the wind, but it is only now "discovered" what a great risk this is to their very lives!
Maybe expensive gear and special skills are needed for long distance touring or "sport" cycling--but for everyday transportation bicycling--the type discussed on this forum--just get your butt on the bike and go.
As for this hearing protection thing--I would have taken it for an Onion article if I ran across it on the web. For thousands of years, people have been outside in the wind, but it is only now "discovered" what a great risk this is to their very lives!
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