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Old 06-23-22, 05:17 AM
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Crowd opinion - rim choice

Hey all,

[size=16px]Looking for so opinions on what rims to get for my 1976 Benotto Pista 1700Ö[/size]



[size=16px]A while ago laced some g4 tubulars on it and retired it to occasional special rides, but A. I miss it being my daily companion and B. Been getting neck pain and it just fits me better than any other bike I own someoneÖ so I need some clinchers for his comebackÖ[/size]



[size=16px]Also needs to be kind of now and inexpensive so just looking through Uk options canít find anything quite right or even safe choices like standard mavics on eBay atm?! choices are:[/size]



[size=16px]Nisi hr22 red anodised - wouldnít normally consider colour rims at all but nisi will have been itís original rim and there is red in the Italian decalsÖ never really seen colour rims tho could like proper sh1te.[/size]



[size=16px]Rigida competitor tvm blue anodised - same vibe of doubt but blue would ymatch better? Still feel funny about colour rims and they not got that Italian continuity.[/size]



[size=16px]Alesa aero rims - keep it tracky and simple although section probably abit new? No idea about the age of these?[/size]



[size=16px]Keep waiting and looking?? [/size]




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Old 06-23-22, 08:53 PM
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H Plus Son TB14s come in polished, dark grey anodized, and black anodized. Since you run fixed-gear, you'll never have to worry about brake track wear. They won't be anywhere as light as tubs (nor as magical riding), nor as light as a MA2/MA40 or Open Pro, about ~505g. They are well finished, eyeleted, and build really well (very strong). The last two years/this year means everything fun is more expensive, so these aren't the nice price they once were. Still cheaper than most anything else while still being of quality.

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I commuted on tubulars for years. Did not turn out to be a problem (for me, anyway).
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Those GP4s look pretty darn nice on that bike. I just put a pair on my Mooney. Bike's quite content to be back on the rims it spent a third of its life on. I'm lovin' it too.
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I’d be all over those blue rims on that build. Matchy yes but not overly matchy if you moderate the blue elsewhere.
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put some 28mm or so tubulars on and carry 2 extra tires faster flat fix if you get on on the road
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Thanks for replies and links. I also am sad not to go for the blue ones, although I somehow suspect the price might rocketÖ if they stay near a bargain Late night find, found out rigida made some of the earliest clinchers in the 70s and found a pair with the stickers almost gone for £25, reckon that actually might but the least flashy but most time correct option. Also kind of into the delicate wheels with the delicate frame and delicate rider lol, 622-13 with 20mm vittoria evo tires.
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Old 06-24-22, 10:23 AM
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Also btw I did try the tubs in London, with sealant, for like 4 months, they did last better than I thought but when relying on it for daily travel thatís not enough.

since then, pair of used bontrager r3s, not a single puncture in over a year Iím actually so impressed. Just abit prone to pinch flats if I try and go up any sort 20mm+ curb
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Originally Posted by squirtdad View Post
put some 28mm or so tubulars on and carry 2 extra tires faster flat fix if you get on on the road
Funny you should mention that! First ride on my second pair of tubular wheels - Vitt, Rumino Pro G+ tubbies. Nailed the rear quite literally with a roofing nail. Through the tread. Guessing through the tube twice. Through the base tape and 3/4" into the deep V rim.

I always consider first glue jobs on a new rim as suspect; to be rolled on carefully. Not until I've pulled that tire and seen that the glue has a good bond to the metal do I trust it enough to do hard turns, so this flat was simply a early rim glue check! (And I get to take apart that Rubino and see what the tube is and get a feel for construction quality.)

But the joys of tubular tire changes! I'd forgotten. It was approaching sunset; a nightmare I saw recently with my clinchers - trying to do the repair in waning light and find the cause so I didn't get another in less light. The tubbie? 5 minutes? OK, I was a little clumsy getting the fix gear chain slack so maybe 6. "Oh yeah! This is why I commuted so long on tubulars! Flats don't cost me money at the time clock." Or the need to slide quietly past the manager's office.
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I don't think there is conclusive data that indicates tubulars get more flats.
I think it is mental attitude and the fear of having to repair a tubie flat.
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I had problems with a rear clincher for nearly a week of commuting. One trip required pumping the tire up every 1.5 miles or so because I didn't have any alternative. Never figured out why. started using rim plugs
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There is always the Sun CR18. Good price in the US at least, and available polished if you want to bling it up a bit. I couldn't find a UK link. https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...s.php?id=17107

Since you are in the UK, Chain Reaction has the black H Plus Son TB14s for only 65 sterling. Cheaper than here in the states at least. There are also the classic Mavic Open Pros. They also have some 2020 version Open Pros on clearance but only in 36 hole
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On the tub discussionÖ can anyone clarify why glue is better than tape? Iíve only ever used tape and itís so easy and fast, pre stretch them when you buy them but then itís instant to fix. Canít see why you would faff around with glue.
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Originally Posted by WillBradley1 View Post
On the tub discussionÖ can anyone clarify why glue is better than tape? Iíve only ever used tape and itís so easy and fast, pre stretch them when you buy them but then itís instant to fix. Canít see why you would faff around with glue.
1) glue is not hard 2) I used tufo tape first time out, held well, easy to do, but essentially pulled the tire apart when taking it off

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1) glue is not hard 2) I used tufo tape first time out, held well, easy to do, but essentially pulled the tire apart when taking it off

ymmv

but why would you take it off unless it was toast?
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but why would you take it off unless it was toast?
Flat on way to work
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On the tub discussionÖ can anyone clarify why glue is better than tape? Iíve only ever used tape and itís so easy and fast, pre stretch them when you buy them but then itís instant to fix. Canít see why you would faff around with glue.
The tape pre-Tufo was prone to melting in hot weather. I rolled a tire (going slow and uphill so it was no big deal) on a hot summer day in Boston. Hot but not Arizona or climate change hot. Stopped using tape that ride. Went to Tubasti: a glue that never goes fully hard. This means on the road tire changes stick reasonably well. I never cleaned the rims. I trust a rim with plenty of build up of that stuff.

I stopped using tubulars before I ever heard of Tufo. Now, it's either back to a system I know very well (and Tubasti hasn't changed a bit) or learn a whole new one. Tubasti served me for 25 years. As long as I can get it, why change?
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Originally Posted by WillBradley1 View Post
but why would you take it off unless it was toast?
I patch my flat/punctured tubulars, assuming that they aren't worn out. Not that hard to do, once you've got a little practice at it.

One memorable example was the brand new Continental Sprinter that pinch flatted on its first ride!
Finding where the holes were located was an interesting problem.



As for glue vs tape, I grew up with glue and never felt it was a problem. If I'm wrong, please don't tell me. (ignorance is bliss)

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Finding where the holes were located was an interesting problem.

I'm curious; how did you?
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I'm curious; how did you?
The only thing I could think of was to isolate the leak to a section of the tire by folding over the tire (not unlike bending a garden hose to stop the flow of water). I may have used a vise-grips pliers to help with this. With that technique, I used something like a binary search to isolate what part of the tire it was.
It worked pretty well... once I unstitched the section of tire, I didn't have to look far to find the holes.

Other than this incident, I tend to not get many flats, either on clinchers or tubulars, especially when I stick to the rural roads. Riding in town is much riskier, with more broken glass and such.

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