Campagnolo frame?
01-10-17, 05:39 PM
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Bikes before the mid70's had clamp on Stops not braze on. I have a 1969 Cinelli SC and everything was Campy Clamp on fittings not braze ons. I remember seeing bikes marketed during the bike booms with what I called "marketing" stickers. My memory doesn't cringe at the Campagnolo DT sticker. Probably a Windsor and probably an original sticker. Not something I would buy but may be a decent ride for someone. Suntour weren't bad parts, infact I believe that Shimano bought the patents for the current RD design.
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I see on Sheldon brown these dropouts, I guess, are or were available for frame building? but maybe not a campy frame... I'm considering a repaint on this old frame as it has some topical rust areas on the Reynolds 531 frame...
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Campagnolo made frame fittings such as dropouts, front derailleur hangers, shift lever bosses and even a steerer tube. They designed specifically for mounting Campagnolo components, which often used proprietary or non-standard mounting. These were available as stock items to all framebuilders. However, Camapgnolo did not manufacture frames.
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Campagnolo made frame fittings such as dropouts, front derailleur hangers, shift lever bosses and even a steerer tube. They designed specifically for mounting Campagnolo components, which often used proprietary or non-standard mounting. These were available as stock items to all framebuilders. However, Camapgnolo did not manufacture frames.
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05-15-17, 10:17 AM
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You can apply any logo to a frame paint job you wish.
Campagnolo made components and tools a much larger industry than frame builders ,
who can be one guy in a shed in the back garden.
I built a frame in 1975, Fork tips: Campag , BB: Cinelli, Fork Crown: Zeus.
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Campagnolo made components and tools a much larger industry than frame builders ,
who can be one guy in a shed in the back garden.
I built a frame in 1975, Fork tips: Campag , BB: Cinelli, Fork Crown: Zeus.
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12-30-21, 07:09 PM
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Holy thread dig! To quote T-Mar:
Campagnolo made frame fittings such as dropouts, front derailleur hangers, shift lever bosses and even a steerer tube. They designed specifically for mounting Campagnolo components, which often used proprietary or non-standard mounting. These were available as stock items to all framebuilders. However, Camapgnolo did not manufacture frames.
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The drop out is Campagnolo, many marques used their front and rear drop outs. Got them on both my Medici and Tomassini.
Campagnolo makes high quality components, and nicely crafted wine bottle openers, just no framesets.
Bill
Campagnolo makes high quality components, and nicely crafted wine bottle openers, just no framesets.
Bill
12-30-21, 10:57 PM
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I have genuine team Shimano downtube graphic panels from 1974, will that make a frame a Shimano?
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ancient thread archeology. Even has my old user name that went fizzzit during one of the BF updates. The powers at the time advised I just start from scratch.
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In the old days we all shortened Campagnolo to CAMPY. No one said Campag. It is not a sign of disrespect to say Campy. Thank you for letting me vent.
12-31-21, 02:54 PM
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Well as far as resurrections go, this was a fun one.
I remember seeing Campagnolo neutral service bikes in Euro race photos that were a medium blue (basically Shimano or Park blue) with white decals and bar tape on top of a Campagnolo car. They looked really nice and I rattle-canned my Peugeot the same shade of blue to mimic the look, although without decals. This would've been about 1986... I can't find any photos of those bikes now. No idea who made them, but they were surely nice bikes.
And Campag seems to be a British nickname while Campy is the American equivalent - neither is disrespectful I don't think.
I remember seeing Campagnolo neutral service bikes in Euro race photos that were a medium blue (basically Shimano or Park blue) with white decals and bar tape on top of a Campagnolo car. They looked really nice and I rattle-canned my Peugeot the same shade of blue to mimic the look, although without decals. This would've been about 1986... I can't find any photos of those bikes now. No idea who made them, but they were surely nice bikes.
And Campag seems to be a British nickname while Campy is the American equivalent - neither is disrespectful I don't think.
12-31-21, 03:15 PM
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Those Britishers, going their own way. No Euro... No more EU.
12-31-21, 03:32 PM
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The US Campy van and the Campy station wagon both sported blue bikes. You can find photos of both on CR and Veloilumati. Sadly, photos are too low res to see frame logos.
Now, if that one time I got a ride in the Campy van, I had just looked closer at the bike, ……..no way. I was in the Campy van. Bill Woodul was driving. At that moment, nothing else mattered.
Now, if that one time I got a ride in the Campy van, I had just looked closer at the bike, ……..no way. I was in the Campy van. Bill Woodul was driving. At that moment, nothing else mattered.
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When Campagnolo introduced their 50th anniversary group in 1983, the blue frames used in their advertisements were manufactured by Scapin. However, Campagnolo neutral support bicycles may have varied from market to market, with frames being contracted to local builders by the regional Campagnolo distributor.
As noted, "Campag" is a British Empire abbreviation. In Canada, many of the older cyclists, including myself, use "Campag", as a result of the large contingent of British immigrants in the pre-boom, Canadian, racing fraternity. However, the younger ones tend to use "Campy", as a result of exposure to USA cycling magazines. Both are preferable to the often seen "Campagnola". In our shop we used to joke that it was actually "Campag No Low", due the rear mechs' limited range and detiorated performance with larger cogs.
Edit: Note the upper head lug in the lower right photograph of the attached 50th anniversary advertisement. it bears the distinctive three circular impressions used by Scapin during this period. To be selected by the head office (perphaps Tullio himself) as the frame for promoting this group is as big an endorsement as you can get.
As noted, "Campag" is a British Empire abbreviation. In Canada, many of the older cyclists, including myself, use "Campag", as a result of the large contingent of British immigrants in the pre-boom, Canadian, racing fraternity. However, the younger ones tend to use "Campy", as a result of exposure to USA cycling magazines. Both are preferable to the often seen "Campagnola". In our shop we used to joke that it was actually "Campag No Low", due the rear mechs' limited range and detiorated performance with larger cogs.
Edit: Note the upper head lug in the lower right photograph of the attached 50th anniversary advertisement. it bears the distinctive three circular impressions used by Scapin during this period. To be selected by the head office (perphaps Tullio himself) as the frame for promoting this group is as big an endorsement as you can get.
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I have a secret! This is my Campagnolo frame picked up from the PO as a project for $100! He didn't know what he had!
P1040434 on Flickr
Very old
P1040388 on Flickr
Sold by Trek as a 760
P1040551 on Flickr
The tubing is disguised as Reynolds 531c
WP_20141102_006 on Flickr
Campagnolo sent their people all the way to Waterloo WI..
WP_20141102_003 on Flickr
P1040434 on FlickrVery old
P1040388 on FlickrSold by Trek as a 760
P1040551 on FlickrThe tubing is disguised as Reynolds 531c
WP_20141102_006 on FlickrCampagnolo sent their people all the way to Waterloo WI..
WP_20141102_003 on Flickr
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I like Campagnola on ebay...
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Campagnolo did come to Waterloo in the mid 80s. Valentino Campagnolo and representatives from Cinelli and Columbus came for a factory tour. I happened to be wearing a Campagnolo t-shirt when they came through the factory. Valentino saw it, and came up to me to say, "that's my name on your shirt." 
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Campagnolo did come to Waterloo in the mid 80s. Valentino Campagnolo and representatives from Cinelli and Columbus came for a factory tour. I happened to be wearing a Campagnolo t-shirt when they came through the factory. Valentino saw it, and came up to me to say, "that's my name on your shirt."
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Campagnolo did come to Waterloo in the mid 80s. Valentino Campagnolo and representatives from Cinelli and Columbus came for a factory tour. I happened to be wearing a Campagnolo t-shirt when they came through the factory. Valentino saw it, and came up to me to say, "that's my name on your shirt."
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Campagnolo did come to Waterloo in the mid 80s. Valentino Campagnolo and representatives from Cinelli and Columbus came for a factory tour. I happened to be wearing a Campagnolo t-shirt when they came through the factory. Valentino saw it, and came up to me to say, "that's my name on your shirt."
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