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Is there anything that compares to steel in terms of ride quality?

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Old 09-25-08, 04:54 PM
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Is there anything that compares to steel in terms of ride quality?

I'm in the market for a new bike. I have always ridden steel. Has the technology with carbon advanced to a level that the ride quality equals that of steel?

Thanks in advance everyone!
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Easton Scandium. Not carbon, but rides like steel, and lighter to boot.
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Originally Posted by mrbubbles
Easton Scandium. Not carbon, but rides like steel, and lighter to boot.
Easton Scandium is freaking nice.
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ti is nice.
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ti is better.
Fixed.
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When are people going to learn its not the material that solely dictates the ride of a bike. It depends on the geometry of the tubes. You can have stiff titanium, soft aluminum, and bone jarring carbon along with any other combination.
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my LOOK 585 has a ride quality i liken very much to steel. it's lively and supple but a lot lighter.
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I'm quite glad to say I have never touched a carbon bike, but I am curious as to how light they are and would like to test ride one just for kicks, but my next bike will probably be Ti and something will be done to my steel bike, but what I'm not exactly sure.
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Originally Posted by Surferbruce
my LOOK 585 has a ride quality i liken very much to steel. it's lively and supple but a lot lighter.
I rode a 585 for about 20 miles (switched with a riding partner) and I felt it was very much more muted than the feel of any steel bike I've been on - a product of the vibration dampening material. It was way stiffer in the BB area as well and outclassed every steel bike that I've been on in that area.
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I rode a 585 for about 20 miles (switched with a riding partner) and I felt it was very much more muted than the feel of any steel bike I've been on - a product of the vibration dampening material. It was way stiffer in the BB area as well and outclassed every steel bike that I've been on in that area.
Keep in mind wheels and tires as well as tire inflation also GREATLY effect the ride quality
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Originally Posted by garysol1
Keep in mind wheels and tires as well as tire inflation also GREATLY effect the ride quality
Absolutely true.
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Originally Posted by MIN
Absolutely true.
Not to kiss ass ....but damn, I still have wood for your Lemond......
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Originally Posted by Jynx
When are people going to learn its not the material that solely dictates the ride of a bike. It depends on the geometry of the tubes. You can have stiff titanium, soft aluminum, and bone jarring carbon along with any other combination.


I rode a Reynolds 531 (I know, I know..its old school) Trek a few weeks ago and it was too springy. My Columbus SL/P Schwinn Peleton has much less springiness but it retains that steel feel.
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Have ridden/owned steel, alu, ti, carbon, bamboo.
My butt's on carbon fiber but bamboo is every bit as great.
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Originally Posted by zonatandem
Have ridden/owned steel, alu, ti, carbon, bamboo.
My butt's on carbon fiber but bamboo is every bit as great.


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Originally Posted by garysol1
Not to kiss ass ....but damn, I still have wood for your Lemond......
steel is real!
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Originally Posted by Jynx
When are people going to learn its not the material that solely dictates the ride of a bike. It depends on the geometry of the tubes. You can have stiff titanium, soft aluminum, and bone jarring carbon along with any other combination.
1+++++++++++++++

I'll also add that my Pegoretti feels 10x nicer then my steel Colnago. It's all about whats better for the rider not better quality.
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Originally Posted by zonatandem
Have ridden/owned steel, alu, ti, carbon, bamboo.
My butt's on carbon fiber but bamboo is every bit as great.

You sit on your frame when u ride??

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Originally Posted by MIN
steel is real!
Don't forget....I have one of each
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u mean teh holy grail... laterally stiff yet vertically compliant ?

no you can't haz that with any bike
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Originally Posted by mrbubbles
Easton Scandium. Not carbon, but rides like steel, and lighter to boot.
My bike with Easton Scandium does not feel anything like steel. Much stiffer and much more "road feel" aka vibration. As mentioned above, material alone is not the determining factor.
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I have both steel and carbon and I'd take carbon any day.
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I have steel, carbon and aluminum framed bikes. The ride quality of each is...different.

The steel is the most compliant, feels most organic in a turn, but flexes when cranking big watts. The carbon is a lot lighter, the best on a hill or on a long ride. The aluminum is the most responsive, best in a sprint. They all feel good, but a little different.

Strangely enough, I think in my case the aluminum actually dampens road vibrations a little better than the carbon, but it's a specialized allez with the zertz inserts; maybe they actually work.
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The ride of my new aluminum Specialized is not any worse than my old steel Univega. It's lighter over the bumps, and its handling qualities and feel are so far and away superior that any difference in ride is purely academic. There's just not enough there to be worth caring about.
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Originally Posted by mrbubbles
Easton Scandium. Not carbon, but rides like steel, and lighter to boot.
+1 on the Easton Scandium.
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