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Old 08-01-22, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Pour gasoline down the hole and light it. What's the worst that could happen?

I hear the underground fire in Centralia PA is still burning, BTW. 60 years, all from a fire in a landfill.
I did similar for a ground nest of hornets that were terrorizing Mrs BD, but I used smoldering charcoals instead.
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I mean, I’m normally an animal lover, but if you can’t behave on my property you have to go.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
I did similar for a ground nest of hornets that were terrorizing Mrs BD, but I used smoldering charcoals instead.
I think I remember the posts about that. I had never heard of ground nests and am now paranoid.
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I mean, I’m normally an animal lover, but you can’t beehive on my property. You have to go.
Fixt. Or close... not bees I know.
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Fixt. Or close... not bees I know.
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This is a tunnel on the Silver Comet trail. It's about a tenth of a mile long.
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Originally Posted by t2p
at one time we rode near (and at times on) the railroad tracks in Franklin PA - traveled over some trestles and through a couple of tunnels (on the tracks)

the long tunnels were a challenge - tough to just maintain your balance

the train tracks in that area were transformed into rails-to-trails ... we have ridden some of that area with our bicycles but have not ridden through the long tunnel on the Allegheny River trail ... we did ride through the shorter tunnel on the nearby Sandy Lake trail (pictured above)
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The ART in 2014 during the day from Franklin to Shippenville via Emlenton. At least the tunnels now have reflective striping. The bridge is the one from the Sandy Lake Trail. The buck had just shed some antler fuzz.




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Originally Posted by DougRNS
This is a tunnel on the Silver Comet trail. It's about a tenth of a mile long.
Hiawatha Trail. 1.66 miles across St. Paul Pass between ID and MT. Unlit, and curves. Drainage ditches on each side. Water dripping from the ceiling. One of about a dozen tunnels in 14 miles. Coolest rail-trail I have ever ridden.


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Just signed up for blood lactate testing, with the goal of finding the “real” power and HR targets for low intensity workouts. I am going full fitness geek at a ridiculously advanced age, but it’s only the price of a pair of good clinchers.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
I did similar for a ground nest of hornets that were terrorizing Mrs BD, but I used smoldering charcoals instead.
When I was young and dumb(er) I repeatedly ran a lawnmower over one of those on different days and wondered why I kept getting stung on the legs.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Hiawatha Trail. 1.66 miles across St. Paul Pass between ID and MT. Unlit, and curves. Drainage ditches on each side. Water dripping from the ceiling. One of about a dozen tunnels in 14 miles. Coolest rail-trail I have ever ridden.


What is the purpose of the doors?
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What is the purpose of the doors?
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Just signed up for blood lactate testing, with the goal of finding the “real” power and HR targets for low intensity workouts. I am going full fitness geek at a ridiculously advanced age, but it’s only the price of a pair of good clinchers.
I assume that this means some suffering when hooked up to contraptions? I'm surprised to hear about the cost - much more reasonable than I'd have expected.
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Originally Posted by big john
What is the purpose of the doors?
They were installed to help winterize the tunnel. IIRC, they keep our blowing snow and moderate the temperature inside, preserving the surface, They also keep out people, who should not be there during the winter. The trail crosses the Bitterroot Range of the Rockies. Winters are no joke up there.

The Big Savage Tunnel on the GAP also has doors that are closed and locked from around November to April for the same reason.

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Originally Posted by Eric F
I didn't limit myself to casual/easy riding. I can ride almost all the same stuff on this 26" singlespeed that I do with my much-newer 29" HT.
Today I worked on a sadly neglected Cannondale F1000 which would be a great candidate for exactly this kind of build. Did you find a "magic ratio" or use an eccentric hub/BB?

I rode a singlespeed 120mm hardtail in Illinois a lot, then converted it back to 1x10 once I moved down here. Sold it earlier this year and now have a 130/115 Giant Trance 29. It's definitely slower than the hardtail going uphill but it's very rocky around here so it's nice to not get so beat up on every ride.
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And while we're doing tunnel pictures...

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Snoqualmie tunnel, 2.3 miles of spookiness:




All the best tunnels have you fill out waivers first, though
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Today I worked on a sadly neglected Cannondale F1000 which would be a great candidate for exactly this kind of build. Did you find a "magic ratio" or use an eccentric hub/BB?

I rode a singlespeed 120mm hardtail in Illinois a lot, then converted it back to 1x10 once I moved down here. Sold it earlier this year and now have a 130/115 Giant Trance 29. It's definitely slower than the hardtail going uphill but it's very rocky around here so it's nice to not get so beat up on every ride.
Yep - Magic. 32x19 turned out to be the correct chain length and the right gearing for the roads and trails in my area. I’ll ride it again sometime, but right now, I’m distracted by the newer machine.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
I did similar for a ground nest of hornets that were terrorizing Mrs BD, but I used smoldering charcoals instead.
every 3-5 years or so we get a nest in a hole in the ground

often stick a piece of firewood or two in the ground and pour 2 stroke premix into the hole / on the wood and light it

it will burn for a while ... bees then gone
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
In 2013 I saw two young folks walking. In 2020 I saw the 2 people in the tunnel. But those were weekdays. I did see a good number of beer cans and campfire rings.

About the two people in the tunnel: I had my riding glasses on, and they were shining lights towards me. I only saw two people. In camp that night I looked at the day’s photos as I was sitting around the fire. An intense chill came over me when I realized there had been three people. What made it more scary was that I was the only one in the fairly large campground.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
The ART in 2014 during the day from Franklin to Shippenville via Emlenton. At least the tunnels now have reflective striping. The bridge is the one from the Sandy Lake Trail. The buck had just shed some antler fuzz.




we rode on the train tracks - including over the tall trestles and through the tunnels - during the 1980's when trains were still running on the tracks

this was the best / fastest way to get from one section of trails to the next

obviously this carried some danger

I was most concerned about a train coming at us while we were riding on the trestle ... I mentally rehearsed stopping quickly - pushing bike off trestle - and then climbing to edge of the trestle and then hang by my hands as train passed by

probably would not have worked


one time I rode 6 miles down the train tracks to the truck where we parked to get a tow strap - and then 6 miles to my friend with broken-down bike - and then towed the friend (on the bike) 6 miles back to the truck
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I hate tunnels on the road bike, even short ones. Having cars and trucks that close with no escape scares me, not to mention visibility. We go through this tunnel both ways on one of our Tuesday rides.

On another road this short tunnel had dirt spilled in it from dump trucks that were clearing storm drains. A friend hit a pile of dirt and fell and broke his hip. Luckily he didn't get hit by a vehicle.
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