is Wiggle ripping us off?
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If Wiggle is transparent in their pricing, they aren't ripping anyone off. You're free to look, compare, and choose. Don't like what you see? Go somewhere else. Whatever reason they may have for pricing things different to different regions, it's unlikely you are going to have any effect on it.
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You realize that anyone who offers “free shipping” is making more money from some people than from others based on where they live, right?
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Hmmm, that 18% is about exactly the VAT (Value Added Tax) that Wiggle would have to collect from a UK customer But would not have to collect from an export customer. Cooincidence? I think not. Rather I think WIggle just decided "Heck, let's just keep that VAT. None of these punters care."
and the reason Wiggle thinks they can sell them for that price is because most of their customers are not.... errh "intrepid"? enough to wonder "Is Wiggle ripping us off"? (Surprise! They Are)
and the reason Wiggle thinks they can sell them for that price is because most of their customers are not.... errh "intrepid"? enough to wonder "Is Wiggle ripping us off"? (Surprise! They Are)
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If Wiggle is transparent in their pricing, they aren't ripping anyone off. You're free to look, compare, and choose. Don't like what you see? Go somewhere else. Whatever reason they may have for pricing things different to different regions, it's unlikely you are going to have any effect on it.
If just hree people have woken up and starting doing the math and looking for alternatives, then that is an effect, a win, however small.
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Hmmm, that 18% is about exactly the VAT (Value Added Tax) that Wiggle would have to collect from a UK customer But would not have to collect from an export customer. Cooincidence? I think not. Rather I think WIggle just decided "Heck, let's just keep that VAT. None of these punters care."
and the reason Wiggle thinks they can sell them for that price is because most of their customers are not.... errh "intrepid"? enough to wonder "Is Wiggle ripping us off"? (Surprise! They Are)
and the reason Wiggle thinks they can sell them for that price is because most of their customers are not.... errh "intrepid"? enough to wonder "Is Wiggle ripping us off"? (Surprise! They Are)
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They likely have to pay US custom since the bike is over $800. It is also more expensive and hassle to ship to the US.
It isn't a rip-off if they show you the price they charge before you agree to pay. They don't force you to buy from them. You are free to get a better value from a different seller.
It isn't a rip-off if they show you the price they charge before you agree to pay. They don't force you to buy from them. You are free to get a better value from a different seller.
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They likely have to pay US custom since the bike is over $800. It is also more expensive and hassle to ship to the US.
It isn't a rip-off if they show you the price they charge before you agree to pay. They don't force you to buy from them. You are free to get a better value from a different seller.
It isn't a rip-off if they show you the price they charge before you agree to pay. They don't force you to buy from them. You are free to get a better value from a different seller.
The buyer pays the customs fee, which is added to shipping on top of the bike price. So that isn't the explanation.
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Vitus Sentier 29 on Vitus' site: 949.99 pounds. Conversion to dollars: $1185.59. Price for bike at Wiggle or CRC for US buyer: $1399.
Why is Wiggle charging an extra ~18% above the price advertised on Vitus' site?
FYI, I paid $1099 for the exact same bike a year and a half ago. I understand supply chain issues and rising material costs, but $300 more? In a year?
Why is Wiggle charging an extra ~18% above the price advertised on Vitus' site?
FYI, I paid $1099 for the exact same bike a year and a half ago. I understand supply chain issues and rising material costs, but $300 more? In a year?
Wiggle:
Vitus Sentier 29 Mountain Bike
$1,199.99 list, on sale for $1,019.99
What's the problem?
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One has only to visit Chain Reaction, select various shipping countries, and examine the differences in sale % and shipping cost (which includes duty) to understand just how much this company is ****ing everyone over, well, at least the people in countries it's decided it can **** over.
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$1259 as of just now, but better than $1399, which was the price at the time of the OP when the bike wasn't on sale. Clearly, some people shouldn't attempt basic logic.
One has only to visit Chain Reaction, select various shipping countries, and examine the differences in sale % and shipping cost (which includes duty) to understand just how much this company is ****ing everyone over, well, at least the people in countries it's decided it can **** over.
One has only to visit Chain Reaction, select various shipping countries, and examine the differences in sale % and shipping cost (which includes duty) to understand just how much this company is ****ing everyone over, well, at least the people in countries it's decided it can **** over.
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So, if duty on bikes is 11% (per googlefu), $1249 / 1.11 = $1,125
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$1259 as of just now, but better than $1399, which was the price at the time of the OP when the bike wasn't on sale. Clearly, some people shouldn't attempt basic logic.
One has only to visit Chain Reaction, select various shipping countries, and examine the differences in sale % and shipping cost (which includes duty) to understand just how much this company is ****ing everyone over, well, at least the people in countries it's decided it can **** over.
One has only to visit Chain Reaction, select various shipping countries, and examine the differences in sale % and shipping cost (which includes duty) to understand just how much this company is ****ing everyone over, well, at least the people in countries it's decided it can **** over.
I'm totally at a lost as to where several people have gotten the idea that a company is supposed to price products similarly in different countries or they're "screwing people". or "ripping us off." These are capitalist enterprises, and they will charge what the market will bear, provided that price is actually profitable for them.
As a buyer in the U.S., why should I care what the item would cost me if I was ordering from the UK? Since my moving to the UK just to buy the item is not an option, that info is irrelevant to me. I do care whether there's a source available to me in the US where I can pay less for the same or substantially similar item, and if I don't check for that possibility before buying from CR or Wiggle and I end up overpaying, any "screwing" of me is entirely my own fault.
TL/DR: The price is the price, and it's either higher, lower or the same as other available sources. What does it matter to us how that price was calculated? Check prices and if they're higher than the competition, don't buy from them.
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Markets differ across the world. Demand, supply and competition are all variables affecting price in a given location/time. Living in the UK sometimes I notice certain things are considerably cheaper in the US. If I want those things and I can't buy them locally any cheaper then I have to either suck up the higher price or not buy them. Wiggle/CRC are usually competitive in the UK market, so I often buy stuff from them. If they really are more expensive in the US, then they are either going to be uncompetitive in the US market (in which case buy from the more competitive source) or if they are still cheaper than local US sources then why would they need to reduce their prices to match a totally different market?
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Additionally, have you ever considered the Wiggle's cost *is higher* to take, prepare and ship orders outside the UK? I don't accept export orders in my business for that reason.
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Markets differ across the world. Demand, supply and competition are all variables affecting price in a given location/time. Living in the UK sometimes I notice certain things are considerably cheaper in the US. If I want those things and I can't buy them locally any cheaper then I have to either suck up the higher price or not buy them. Wiggle/CRC are usually competitive in the UK market, so I often buy stuff from them. If they really are more expensive in the US, then they are either going to be uncompetitive in the US market (in which case buy from the more competitive source) or if they are still cheaper than local US sources then why would they need to reduce their prices to match a totally different market?
It's almost like Wiggle is a commercial enterprise attempting to maximize profit. Those crooks!
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