UK - The cycling habit most hated by drivers
04-03-23, 09:36 PM
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Sounds as if you aren't pedaling in the prairies as your name suggests. You seem to be describing a more urban environment than I ride in. Though I live in a urban area I have a nearby MUP that affords me access to less crowded country roads. But even quite a few of our urban roads I will ride on a bike.
So I'll say your conditions and circumstances aren't my conditions and circumstances. There isn't just one correct answer that fits everyone or even all situations that I or you will encounter.
So I'll say your conditions and circumstances aren't my conditions and circumstances. There isn't just one correct answer that fits everyone or even all situations that I or you will encounter.
04-03-23, 09:40 PM
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Welcome to the wonderful world of confirmation bias. People need to hate, and will always find groups to target. Then they use anecdotes to prove their case.
So, an individual cyclist's actions won't cause people to hate cyclists. It will only validate bias that's there already.
So, an individual cyclist's actions won't cause people to hate cyclists. It will only validate bias that's there already.
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04-03-23, 10:00 PM
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Welcome to the wonderful world of confirmation bias. People need to hate, and will always find groups to target. Then they use anecdotes to prove their case.
So, an individual cyclist's actions won't cause people to hate cyclists. It will only validate bias that's there already.
So, an individual cyclist's actions won't cause people to hate cyclists. It will only validate bias that's there already.
https://garethrees.org/2012/01/10/bias/
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04-03-23, 10:06 PM
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If you are the driver of a slower car and fail to create an opportunity for the driver behind you to pass, the other driver will most likely blame you as a person. If you do the same on bike, they will blame you as a cyclist AND the whole cycling community. I hate out-group homogeneity.
People who are "blaming" the entire community are either justifying their own hostility or giving an alibi to other hostile drivers. It's also mostly circular because they wouldn't consider this blameworthy behavior if it was performed by any other "slow moving" vehicle. Drivers routinely block lanes waiting for the opportunity to properly make a left turn. When I do that as a cyclist, I've literally had drivers go out of their way to threaten me with their front bumper. If I am in a car, no one thinks twice about it.
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I find that FRAP riding as I practice it really doesn't detain significant motor vehicle traffic. I take the lane when I'm turning or to prevent right hooks, but otherwise get reasonably close to the right margin. Ducking out of the road is something I just won't do, especially if it just makes me reenter a trafficked road.
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I find that FRAP riding as I practice it really doesn't detain significant motor vehicle traffic. I take the lane when I'm turning or to prevent right hooks, but otherwise get reasonably close to the right margin. Ducking out of the road is something I just won't do, especially if it just makes me reenter a trafficked road.
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