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1986 (I believe) Nishiki Prestige:
SN WF07192:
If this follows Kawamura protocol, W= USA market, F=1986 year, 07192= 7,192nd frame manufactured that year. Correct?
Edit to add: All Suntour alpha 5000 componentry, Sugino GP 130 crank with an alpha 5000 sticker on it. 6 speed Suntour indexed DT shifters, Dia-Compe brakes labeled alpha 5000. I think its all original save the stem, saddle, tires and probably tubes. Sugino PD-1000 pedals in black.
SN WF07192:
If this follows Kawamura protocol, W= USA market, F=1986 year, 07192= 7,192nd frame manufactured that year. Correct?
Edit to add: All Suntour alpha 5000 componentry, Sugino GP 130 crank with an alpha 5000 sticker on it. 6 speed Suntour indexed DT shifters, Dia-Compe brakes labeled alpha 5000. I think its all original save the stem, saddle, tires and probably tubes. Sugino PD-1000 pedals in black.
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1986 (I believe) Nishiki Prestige:
SN WF07192:
If this follows Kawamura protocol, W= USA market, F=1986 year, 07192= 7,192nd frame manufactured that year. Correct?
Edit to add: All Suntour alpha 5000 componentry, Sugino GP 130 crank with an alpha 5000 sticker on it. 6 speed Suntour indexed DT shifters, Dia-Compe brakes labeled alpha 5000. I think its all original save the stem, saddle, tires and probably tubes. Sugino PD-1000 pedals in black.
SN WF07192:
If this follows Kawamura protocol, W= USA market, F=1986 year, 07192= 7,192nd frame manufactured that year. Correct?
Edit to add: All Suntour alpha 5000 componentry, Sugino GP 130 crank with an alpha 5000 sticker on it. 6 speed Suntour indexed DT shifters, Dia-Compe brakes labeled alpha 5000. I think its all original save the stem, saddle, tires and probably tubes. Sugino PD-1000 pedals in black.
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Jacoblee: What a nice find !!! That is one fancy frame with all the arabesque stuff happening on the lugs. Excuse my ignorance but who was/is Bruce Gordon ??
Thanks, Rick
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This is totally off topic for this thread; just answering a question, or trying to!
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Many thanks for the info, Jacoblee.
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Any help identifying this frame? I am at a complete loss even after going through this thread. All identification has been stripped from the frame. It feels like its a lighter steel frame than most usual 80's steel frames.
OC24129 stamped on the bottom bracket
TM 0261 stamped on the front fork
All Shimano parts
Derailleurs are FD-Z202
Shifters are Z401
Bottom Bracket is a 68mm English Threads
Wheel hubs are Sansin
If you would like images, just attached this to the end of imgur dot com /a/Y2xmJDC
OC24129 stamped on the bottom bracket
TM 0261 stamped on the front fork
All Shimano parts
Derailleurs are FD-Z202
Shifters are Z401
Bottom Bracket is a 68mm English Threads
Wheel hubs are Sansin
If you would like images, just attached this to the end of imgur dot com /a/Y2xmJDC
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Any help identifying this frame? I am at a complete loss even after going through this thread. All identification has been stripped from the frame. It feels like its a lighter steel frame than most usual 80's steel frames.
OC24129 stamped on the bottom bracket
TM 0261 stamped on the front fork
All Shimano parts
Derailleurs are FD-Z202
Shifters are Z401
Bottom Bracket is a 68mm English Threads
Wheel hubs are Sansin
If you would like images, just attached this to the end of imgur dot com /a/Y2xmJDC
OC24129 stamped on the bottom bracket
TM 0261 stamped on the front fork
All Shimano parts
Derailleurs are FD-Z202
Shifters are Z401
Bottom Bracket is a 68mm English Threads
Wheel hubs are Sansin
If you would like images, just attached this to the end of imgur dot com /a/Y2xmJDC
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Concord Confusion
Thanks so much for posting the guide to SNs, but the Concord decoder is confusing. I have one, with 81003 as an SN on the bottom of the downtube, drive side. It doesn't match up with Dodson or Kuwahara SN guide. Any suggestions from fellow vintage bike owners?
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Trying to figure out the year of manufacture for a Diamond Back Sorrento I bought from a co-worker a few years ago. Serial number is 12L32202. It's black (original paint far as I can tell), Shimano Altus C20 front and Shimano Altus C10 rear, Shimano ST-CT15 shifters. Any help is appreciated.
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Trying to figure out the year of manufacture for a Diamond Back Sorrento I bought from a co-worker a few years ago. Serial number is 12L32202. It's black (original paint far as I can tell), Shimano Altus C20 front and Shimano Altus C10 rear, Shimano ST-CT15 shifters. Any help is appreciated.
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Thank you T-Mar. Very much appreciated. I have been riding it a bit in some local rides. Enjoying it for sure!
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@T-Mar for your SN collection
Shogun Selectra
Having a moment trying to decipher the serial number LS783030
Components seem picked at random which doesn't help, but guessing December 87 or later due to stamping on the Strong Seatpost
Dia Compe brakes
Exage Motion levers BL A251 (89-early 90's)
Sakae Custom stem and Road Champion bars (1980's-?)
Light Action shifters SL-S434 (1987-?0
RD Shimano RD-L541 GS, Light Action (1987-1989)
FD - can't distinguish which model
Specialized Racing crankset (mid-late 80's)
Suzue hubs with Araya rims
Strong (26 8) seatpost - stamped 87 12
Italia saddle
Serial partially covered so LS783030
Shogun Selectra
Having a moment trying to decipher the serial number LS783030
Components seem picked at random which doesn't help, but guessing December 87 or later due to stamping on the Strong Seatpost
Dia Compe brakes
Exage Motion levers BL A251 (89-early 90's)
Sakae Custom stem and Road Champion bars (1980's-?)
Light Action shifters SL-S434 (1987-?0
RD Shimano RD-L541 GS, Light Action (1987-1989)
FD - can't distinguish which model
Specialized Racing crankset (mid-late 80's)
Suzue hubs with Araya rims
Strong (26 8) seatpost - stamped 87 12
Italia saddle
Serial partially covered so LS783030
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@T-Mar for your SN collection...
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Thank you!
See you then
See you then
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I have a Miyata 1000 with a serial number L773534.
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Your frame was manufactured in 1983 but the sequential frame number is high enough that I can't rule out a 1984 model manufactured late in the calendar year. However, for the 1984 model they changed the font of the Miyata logo, added lo-rider rack bosses to the front fork and a 3rd set of bottle bosses under the down tube, so it should be easy enough to identify the model year.
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Your frame was manufactured in 1983 but the sequential frame number is high enough that I can't rule out a 1984 model manufactured late in the calendar year. However, for the 1984 model they changed the font of the Miyata logo, added lo-rider rack bosses to the front fork and a 3rd set of bottle bosses under the down tube, so it should be easy enough to identify the model year.
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I think you are right. I looked at the 1983 paint schemes and Royal Blue is not the color of my bike. The 1984 catalog has Mountain Blue as one of the options, and that spot on. So maybe a late '83 frame painted in an '84 color. The Mountain Blue is almost purple and I am having a tough time finding a proper match for touch-up.
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Ok - another head scratcher for me ... maybe T-mar or someone else can help me figure out the manufactured year for this.. It's for a Shogun Alpine GT - Serial Number : M9KA38939. The bike is blue, Shimano Exage groupset (RD- Exage LX 500; Hubs - Exage FH-HG50; Pedals - Exage Sport clips; Brake Levers - Exage Action), Shimaon Biopace Mountain LX triple crankset, 7 geared rear cluster, FD - Mountain LX. The "Alpine GT" decal is on the downtube & "Shogun" decal is on the top tube near the seat post ... opposite of where the decals are on the 1988 version of the Alpine GT. It also has a "Made in Taiwan" sticker on the headtube ... but "chromoly double butted" stickers on the frame triangle & Chromoly stickers on the front fork. the front fork has low boy mounts, the frame has 2 bottle cage mounts. Man ... will I be glad when I can simply post a picture!! Any help would be great! Thanks.
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Ok - another head scratcher for me ... maybe T-mar or someone else can help me figure out the manufactured year for this.. It's for a Shogun Alpine GT - Serial Number : M9KA38939. The bike is blue, Shimano Exage groupset (RD- Exage LX 500; Hubs - Exage FH-HG50; Pedals - Exage Sport clips; Brake Levers - Exage Action), Shimaon Biopace Mountain LX triple crankset, 7 geared rear cluster, FD - Mountain LX. The "Alpine GT" decal is on the downtube & "Shogun" decal is on the top tube near the seat post ... opposite of where the decals are on the 1988 version of the Alpine GT. It also has a "Made in Taiwan" sticker on the headtube ... but "chromoly double butted" stickers on the frame triangle & Chromoly stickers on the front fork. the front fork has low boy mounts, the frame has 2 bottle cage mounts. Man ... will I be glad when I can simply post a picture!! Any help would be great! Thanks.
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Thank you T-Mar! I just bought this today & know next to nothing about the Shogun brand or line up. I posted a pic to my gallery of the bike. I need a drive side pic ... so I'll add that in a few days. Sadly - there seems to be very little info on these bike (catalogs & specs) that I found on the web.