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Old 05-10-22, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Question for modern stove owners. I got this pan through freecycling. I’ve never seen a bottom like that. Could it be intended for inductions stovetops only? Mine is 1956 vintage gas.

Google is your friend.

Apparently aluminum cookware with a stainless plate on the bottom for induction, but should work on anything.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Question for modern stove owners. I got this pan through freecycling. I’ve never seen a bottom like that. Could it be intended for inductions stovetops only? Mine is 1956 vintage gas.
I've got an induction stove, but I can't say that I can recall seeing any induction-only cookware. I also can't think of why a pan might suitable for induction but not gas/electric - the only reason that some pans aren't suitable for induction is that they don't have any magnetic layers.
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I've got an induction stove, but I can't say that I can recall seeing any induction-only cookware. I also can't think of why a pan might suitable for induction but not gas/electric - the only reason that some pans aren't suitable for induction is that they don't have any magnetic layers.
I think they're what you might call "backwardly compatible", unlike the cooktops, which won't work with copper or aluminum cookware without a ferrous metal base.
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Question for modern stove owners.
What is a non-modern stove?

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I think they're what you might call "backwardly compatible", unlike the cooktops, which won't work with copper or aluminum cookware without a ferrous metal base.
They're more "forwardly compatible," IMO. Slapping a plate on the bottom of a pan that you could have bought a generation or two ago is an inexpensive way to make it compatible in more homes.
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They're more "forwardly compatible," IMO. Slapping a plate on the bottom of a pan that you could have bought a generation or two ago is an inexpensive way to make it compatible in more homes.
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For those with an attachment to incompatible cookware, induction plates are a common workaround, though - put the plate on the cooktop and the cookware on the plate and you're good to go.
When I was single, and had more dollars than sense, I bought some heavy French copper pans, the old style with tin lining. Mrs. GeneJockey can't even lift them. Now the two biggest ones need retinning and I think I have to ship them to Colorado to get it done.
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When I was single, and had more dollars than sense, I bought some heavy French copper pans, the old style with tin lining. Mrs. GeneJockey can't even lift them. Now the two biggest ones need retinning and I think I have to ship them to Colorado to get it done.
Yeah, I'm not surprised - I've heard similar from folks on the knife forums, which is frequented mostly by professional cooks and people that pump their disposable income in to cooking rather than cycling. Weirdos.
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What is a non-modern stove?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I've got an induction stove, but I can't say that I can recall seeing any induction-only cookware. I also can't think of why a pan might suitable for induction but not gas/electric - the only reason that some pans aren't suitable for induction is that they don't have any magnetic layers.
Thanks. I’ll give it a try and see what happens. Hopefully, it won’t asplode.
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Whoa! That's older than I am!
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When Mrs. GJ and I married, we moved into a flat in The Richmond in SF, which had one of those 36" wide O'Keefe and Merritt gas stoves. I spent a weekend cleaning decades of guck off of and out of it. I called myself The Scourge Of Ancient Grease. Anyway, ever since then, we keep seeing stoves like it on TV shows, generally in apartments inhabited by young, trendy people in shows about young, trendy people living in apartments. One or the other of us will say, "Look! It's our stove!"

A few months back I made the mistake of clicking on a listing on FB marketplace for one of them, and showing it to Mrs. GJ, and barely managed to keep her from going and buying it. We don't have a 36" hole for such a stove, we just bought a nice gas stove 5 years ago, and we don't have any place to store it.
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Imagine how much more business a bike shop could do if they were open after 6 PM, or on Sundays.

Then again, my LBS is so busy now that he's not even doing the "While You Wait" services he used to do when he was insanely busy.
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Imagine how much more business a bike shop could do if they were open after 6 PM, or on Sundays.

Then again, my LBS is so busy now that he's not even doing the "While You Wait" services he used to do when he was insanely busy.
Bike shops here are open on Sundays. On Mondays through Fridays, I would think that hours of noon to 8:00 (or even 7:00) would be much more lucrative than 10:00 to 6:00. Around here, most commuters don't get home from work until after 6:00.
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At one time when we were building a house, we wanted a "professional" gas range in about a 36" size. A client that sold the stuff to restaurants talked us out of it with the explanation that they generate so much heat that commercial ventilation is required. He said they were incredibly popular from a looks perspective, but a lot of people regretted the choice.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
At one time when we were building a house, we wanted a "professional" gas range in about a 36" size. A client that sold the stuff to restaurants talked us out of it with the explanation that they generate so much heat that commercial ventilation is required. He said they were incredibly popular from a looks perspective, but a lot of people regretted the choice.
My understanding is they're not that well insulated. Same was true of that O'Keefe and Merritt, but it was free-standing, not tucked between wooden cabinetry. Still, I do sometimes long for a blowtorch of a burner that isn't a ring. Star-shaped ones heat more evenly. At least I surmise they do.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
At one time when we were building a house, we wanted a "professional" gas range in about a 36" size. A client that sold the stuff to restaurants talked us out of it with the explanation that they generate so much heat that commercial ventilation is required. He said they were incredibly popular from a looks perspective, but a lot of people regretted the choice.
Yeah, both heat and fumes are problematic, and you need to suck out so much air that, with the tight homes of today, the system needs to provide an exchange of air, not just suction. This was one of the (many) reasons that I went with induction and, even coming from an electric coil stove (ick), it was surprising how much less waste heat and fumes it produced.
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Still, I do sometimes long for a blowtorch of a burner that isn't a ring. Star-shaped ones heat more evenly. At least I surmise they do.
I pined for a Thermador at one point. RUOkie, a former Addiction regular, had one, IIRC.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Double metric? Double imperial?!
Double the squish, double the fun!

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This what we've had since moving into this house. Does everything we want or need. Love the temp control gas gives.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
What is a non-modern stove?

to be more accurate. a pair of non-modern stoves.
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I for one am outraged. My wife is lactose intolerant, and buys almond milk for her coffee. She also orders the same at Starbucks. But, I just HTFU and take it like a man.
Milk does not belong in coffee.
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Milk does not belong in coffee.
The four lattes, that I had today, take issue with that statement.
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The four lattes, that I had today, take issue with that statement.
Eh - they were more like flat whites.
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