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Will my bike always be a "beginners bike"?

Old 03-16-21, 11:45 AM
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This happens in ALL circles. I was in a VW car group. Watercooled cars. You had the folks with more money that could notice if you had "Ebay wheels" or if you had real BBS wheels. Or if you had a Chinese intercooler or if it was a name brand nicer one.

Golf, same with clubs.

All of it also sometimes boils down to what you can afford and also some of the more expensive stuff actually lasting longer and needing less replacement (like buying 105 or Ultegra instead of a lower one).

Just can't worry about it or you'll never be able to join any kind of hobby club.
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Old 03-16-21, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by KingoftheNorth
Perhaps we need to ask why then the cyclists with $$$$ insist on telling people what they cost?
For the same reason some people on this forum brag about how little they spent on their bike -- because many people measure the world in currency.
Frankly I really don't care what their bikes cost because Im quite happy with my own.
As it should be.
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Old 03-16-21, 11:53 AM
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Everyone's having a good laugh at the asker's expense (and maybe that of the club, too).

But realistically, while prejudices can sometimes be an issue, choosing the right tool for the job is usually meaningful; the stories where someone on suspension MTB dropped the roadie "A" ride are notable because they're unusual.

If the club has rides that seem interesting, give it a shot starting from the ride the club is allowing as an entry point; get to know people, talk to the longstanding members shepherding that ride, figure out if there's going to be a fit in one of their ride types.

And if there's not a fit, that's fine too - find a different group, or leverage their presence even without being able to join. There's a group with no events I'd fit into, but I still find it interesting to examine their published routes and use those as ideas for my own rides.

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Old 03-16-21, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by burnthesheep
This happens in ALL circles. I was in a VW car group. Watercooled cars..
In my VW club we call watercooled VWs "Honduhs".

Sorry, the only real VW is aircooled
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Old 03-16-21, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KingoftheNorth
Perhaps we need to ask why then the cyclists with $$$$ insist on telling people what they cost?.
Not everyone does that. My bike is purposely understated and don't discuss the cost since most people wouldn't understand.

I found that a flashy bike attracts the wrong attention.

Which bike looks more expensive? One is $234 and the other is not.


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Old 03-16-21, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bblair
Never has bike cost been a topic of conversation....
Price goes unspoken. They'll just know, they always do. Your $99 GMC Denali bike you got at Walmart might look a lot like a $15,000 super bike, but that won't fool them.
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Old 03-16-21, 12:27 PM
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^ How far is that guy going to get with his kickstand down?
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Old 03-16-21, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Reflector Guy
^ How far is that guy going to get with his kickstand down?
He rides to complete exhaustion, then comes to a stop and simply leans slightly to the left for a rest.
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Old 03-16-21, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Reflector Guy
^ How far is that guy going to get with his kickstand down?
Seeing as how he appears to have been cut out and pasted onto the picture of the bike, probably not very far

The description at an online marketplace is especially hilararious:

Volity Mountain Bike, 700C Aluminum Mens Bike Road Bikes 21-Speed Double Disc Brakes Bicycle, Full Suspension, Multi-color:

It is an affordable entry level 21 speed road bike well suited for commuting. It features a lightweight aluminum frame , a Shimanos drivetrain powerful disc brakes for all weather stopping. The complete bike weighs in at an impressive 35 lbs, the lightest in its class.
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Old 03-16-21, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KingoftheNorth
They called my bile a beginners bike and then proceeded to tell me just what their bike's cost. I didn't ask about their bikes, frankly I just wasn't interested. How is that of any concern unless they were being snarky
Well, how much did their bikes cost? Did anyone else notice that OP's BIG TICKET could literally mean anything, from oh let's say $800 to $15,000 (more than that and they probably wouldn't have even let OP look at it ).

If they said their bikes cost less than $2,000, they were actually implying that you can get a more than decent bike (assuming road, although OP never clarified that either) for under what is truly $$$$. Cheaper bikes than that are fine, but there are diminishing returns if wanting to upgrade those, just as there are diminishing returns for paying more.
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Old 03-16-21, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by UniChris
Seeing as how he appears to have been cut out and pasted onto the picture of the bike, probably not very far
That explains why the bike isn't lit by the same low sun angle as the rider....
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Old 03-16-21, 02:14 PM
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Depends on how serious a club is. I got invited to a semi Professional team BITD, but I had to buy a certain "level" of bike which was $2000. At the time in the mid 90's $2000 would have bought you a really nice used sports car! and that price was impossibly out of reach for me. But the team relied on sponsorship to get to races etc and to keep the sponsors happy every one needed high end equipment. If you are taking cycling seriously as a sport your bike is a tool and workmanship is often gauged by the tools you carry. No different then a mechanic needing a certain level of professional tools to work at a high end dealership.
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Old 03-16-21, 04:02 PM
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I ride in a group of folks with varying levels of dedication. Our group leader is a lady with an entry level Trek with bottom level Shimano groupset and GP5000’s.
She can flat kick the doo out of anyone in the group except one guy who does monthly double centuries. However he would not openly state he’s a stronger cycle than her either.
That beginner cycle works pretty well for her......
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Old 03-16-21, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomm Willians
I ride in a group of folks with varying levels of dedication. Our group leader is a lady with an entry level Trek with bottom level Shimano groupset and GP5000’s.
She can flat kick the doo out of anyone in the group except one guy who does monthly double centuries. However he would not openly state he’s a stronger cycle than her either.
That beginner cycle works pretty well for her......
Didn't you know that tires are the most 'bang for your buck' upgrade you can do? She's turned that Corolla into a Supra with those GP5000 tires.
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Old 03-16-21, 04:39 PM
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The biggest imitation will be the riders performance, not the bike being ridden. There are riders out there that will out perform and out maneuver professional riders on their fancy expensive modern carbon frames using a basic 40 year old steel frame sport touring commuter, like me! (Just kidding..)
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I think you took the clubs opinions to heart. If you enjoy your bike, even if this is your only baseline for how a bike is supposed to feel and be enjoyed, having fun and getting a good workout in while staying safe is all that matters.
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Old 03-16-21, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennR

Which bike looks more expensive?


I am going to guess the one that is not photoshopped into the picture.
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Old 03-16-21, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
I am going to guess the one that is not photoshopped into the picture.
I wish Glenn would quit borrowing my bike for these photo shoots!
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Originally Posted by Bigbus
I wish Glenn would quit borrowing my bike for these photo shoots!
it's a Watmart special with some black spray paint.
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I didn't know UGG boots were drilled for mid-mount cleats.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
I didn't know UGG boots were drilled for mid-mount cleats.
They certainly are UGGly.
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Old 03-17-21, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
I didn't know UGG boots were drilled for mid-mount cleats.
Also comes with seat post mountable cable lock as part of the chromium deluxe 9000 upgrade package.
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Originally Posted by Outrider1
Also comes with seat post mountable cable lock as part of the chromium deluxe 9000 upgrade package.
And that's key, because as I understand it that package is also the only way to make sure your bike has the imposing ' SPORT AND POWER ' decals on the seatstays!
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Old 03-17-21, 08:03 AM
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I am saving up for a set of 'ALLCARE' aero-style wheels. THat shiz is zweet!!!

Only then can I have true Sport and Power!
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Old 03-17-21, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
I didn't know UGG boots were drilled for mid-mount cleats.
Maybe the most unnatural (maybe mildly disturbing) thing about this picture is the riders right hand and left arm.

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