Can bike riding help lose weight?
06-06-21, 09:14 AM
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Personally I don't believe in counting calories or using any apps to tell me what to eat and when to eat. I know what my body needs..
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06-06-21, 09:32 AM
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cycling can lose weight or not? My friend cycled daily around the area where she lived but did not seem to notice the weight loss but also tended to increase slowly. Do not know where the problem lies? Can someone point me out the problem?
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cycling can lose weight or not? My friend cycled daily around the area where she lived but did not seem to notice the weight loss but also tended to increase slowly. Do not know where the problem lies? Can someone point me out the problem?
Thank you very much for your interest in my matter.
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In the last 9 months I've cycled enough, according to my power meter, to lose 60 pounds of fat. I've actually lost 40 pounds so far. Cycling was over 100% of my weight loss. According to the "diet is most of your weight loss" people this should be impossible. My diet is terrible (and intermittent fasting was a complete failure) and I would have lost more weight if I ate less. But, still, I lost weight.
Burn more calories than you consume.
Burn more calories than you consume.
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In the last 9 months I've cycled enough, according to my power meter, to lose 60 pounds of fat. I've actually lost 40 pounds so far. Cycling was over 100% of my weight loss. According to the "diet is most of your weight loss" people this should be impossible. My diet is terrible (and intermittent fasting was a complete failure) and I would have lost more weight if I ate less. But, still, I lost weight.
Burn more calories than you consume.
Burn more calories than you consume.
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Before I put my 2¢ in here, full disclosure: I am a certified health coach.
Having said that, let's begin:
1) The most important factor in weight loss is diet. Even if you did zero exercise, if you eat the way humans are intended to eat, determined by 2.5 million years of human evolution, you will attain your ideal body weight.
2) Cycling is poor general exercise, unless you are doing so at a semi-pro to pro level. I'm guessing you are not. Witness the number of cyclists you see with trim, fit legs, skinny arms and chest, and a beer belly.
What to eat? Let evolution be your guide. Humans have the ability to be either carb-burners or fat-burners. You want to be a fat-burner. Most people are carb-burners, as the human diet has shifted in the last 10,000 or so years (but particularly the last 100 years) towards carbs and away from healthy fats.
What to limit or avoid entirely: grains, beans, refined sugars, industrial seed oils, highly processed packaged foods.
What to eat: high quality meat, fish and fowl, veggies, fruits, nuts, etc. (see graphic below)
Eat this way as much as possible. I shoot for an 80/20 balance. 80% of the time I eat great, 20% of the time I eat what I want. After a really long ride, I like a good beer and a burger just as much as the next guy.
And for heaven's sake, don't count calories.
Having said that, let's begin:
1) The most important factor in weight loss is diet. Even if you did zero exercise, if you eat the way humans are intended to eat, determined by 2.5 million years of human evolution, you will attain your ideal body weight.
2) Cycling is poor general exercise, unless you are doing so at a semi-pro to pro level. I'm guessing you are not. Witness the number of cyclists you see with trim, fit legs, skinny arms and chest, and a beer belly.
What to eat? Let evolution be your guide. Humans have the ability to be either carb-burners or fat-burners. You want to be a fat-burner. Most people are carb-burners, as the human diet has shifted in the last 10,000 or so years (but particularly the last 100 years) towards carbs and away from healthy fats.
What to limit or avoid entirely: grains, beans, refined sugars, industrial seed oils, highly processed packaged foods.
What to eat: high quality meat, fish and fowl, veggies, fruits, nuts, etc. (see graphic below)
Eat this way as much as possible. I shoot for an 80/20 balance. 80% of the time I eat great, 20% of the time I eat what I want. After a really long ride, I like a good beer and a burger just as much as the next guy.
And for heaven's sake, don't count calories.
06-07-21, 08:48 AM
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Thanks for the warning.
Since you call cycling a "poor general exercise", I'm guessing you have a poor understanding of the health benefits of endurance exercise, and how much of that exercise can elicit those benefits.
True, increasing fat oxidation capacity can reduce the chances of getting heart disease or type 2 diabetes.
One of the most effective ways to increase your fat metabolism capacity is with aerobic endurance training. And arguably the most effective endurance training is, you guessed it, cycling.
Do that.
There is a way to decrease your fat oxidation capability, and therefore increase the chance of developing adult onset diseases. Want to know what it is? Eating a high-fat, low-carb diet.
Don't do that.
Recap: Be a great fat burner and do lots of endurance exercise, like cycling. Don't be a great fat eater.
EDIT: Here's a dietary guide that isn't from a "certified health coach":
Copyright © 2011, Harvard University. For more information about The Healthy Eating Plate, please see The Nutrition Source, Department of Nutrition, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, www.thenutritionsource.org, and Harvard Health Publications, www.health.harvard.edu.
One of the most effective ways to increase your fat metabolism capacity is with aerobic endurance training. And arguably the most effective endurance training is, you guessed it, cycling.
Do that.
There is a way to decrease your fat oxidation capability, and therefore increase the chance of developing adult onset diseases. Want to know what it is? Eating a high-fat, low-carb diet.
Don't do that.
Recap: Be a great fat burner and do lots of endurance exercise, like cycling. Don't be a great fat eater.
EDIT: Here's a dietary guide that isn't from a "certified health coach":
Copyright © 2011, Harvard University. For more information about The Healthy Eating Plate, please see The Nutrition Source, Department of Nutrition, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, www.thenutritionsource.org, and Harvard Health Publications, www.health.harvard.edu.
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I'm down 19 lbs. in 6 weeks. Riding as much as possible, as hard as possible, and watching what I eat. It's working but I know it's not sustainable in the long term. I'd deal with that problem once I hit my target weight though. In the mean time I couldn't lose as fast as I am without cycling.
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As to the rest of your post, congratulations on helping perpetuate what amounts to the Standard American Diet, which is responsible for the massive increase in type 2 diabetes, obesity, and heart disease. As for the Harvard study, while they get some things right, anyone who considers canola oil healthy is seriously questionable.
Apparently my 35 years of experience in diet, health, and fitness, and perfect numbers at age 55, are for naught.
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"seriously questionable"? Evidence to the contrary:
Ask the Expert: Concerns about canola oil
[C]anola oil is a safe and healthy form of fat that will reduce blood LDL cholesterol levels and heart disease risk compared to carbohydrates or saturated fats such as found in beef tallow or butter. Indeed, in a randomized trial that showed one of the most striking reductions in risk of heart disease, canola oil was used as the primary form of fat.
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No, I don't. Humans are endurance experts, more so than any other mammal on the planet. But endurance is only part of the picture. Apparently you missed the "general" part in "poor general exercise." The way most people cycle, is indeed poor general exercise. Movement that includes cycling, as well as some stretching, strength training, and occasional sprinting (whether on bike or foot) is better.
As to the rest of your post, congratulations on helping perpetuate what amounts to the Standard American Diet, which is responsible for the massive increase in type 2 diabetes, obesity, and heart disease. As for the Harvard study, while they get some things right, anyone who considers canola oil healthy is seriously questionable.
Apparently my 35 years of experience in diet, health, and fitness, and perfect numbers at age 55, are for naught.
As to the rest of your post, congratulations on helping perpetuate what amounts to the Standard American Diet, which is responsible for the massive increase in type 2 diabetes, obesity, and heart disease. As for the Harvard study, while they get some things right, anyone who considers canola oil healthy is seriously questionable.
Apparently my 35 years of experience in diet, health, and fitness, and perfect numbers at age 55, are for naught.
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Congratulations, you can find evidence to support your claims! So can I, it's called "confirmation bias." Did you go to Harvard, or something?
https://www.stemjar.com/is-canola-oil-healthy/
https://www.healthyandnaturalworld.com/canola-oil/
https://draxe.com/nutrition/canola-oil-gm/
https://www.smallfootprintfamily.com...out-canola-oil
How canola oil is made:
https://www.stemjar.com/is-canola-oil-healthy/
https://www.healthyandnaturalworld.com/canola-oil/
https://draxe.com/nutrition/canola-oil-gm/
https://www.smallfootprintfamily.com...out-canola-oil
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Mine has been through the scientific peer-review process. Yours are mostly fact-free articles written by who knows who, with no peer review.
As for me, I'll stick with actual experts who cite real science.
And no, I didn't go to Harvard (which I've heard is a decent school). I went to Stanford.
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I don't eat canola oil. Only ghee
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The evidence I cite (professor of nutrition at Harvard, backed by references to published articles) and your "evidence" are rather different.
Mine has been through the scientific peer-review process. Yours are mostly fact-free articles written by who knows who, with no peer review.
As for me, I'll stick with actual experts who cite real science.
Mine has been through the scientific peer-review process. Yours are mostly fact-free articles written by who knows who, with no peer review.
As for me, I'll stick with actual experts who cite real science.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics...nce/canola-oil
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17373-3
https://science.naturalnews.com/Canola_oil.html
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-...great-con-ola/
And of course, academia is never influenced by industry money.
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Okay, fair enough:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics...nce/canola-oil
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17373-3
https://science.naturalnews.com/Canola_oil.html
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-...great-con-ola/
And of course, academia is never influenced by industry money.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics...nce/canola-oil
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17373-3
https://science.naturalnews.com/Canola_oil.html
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-...great-con-ola/
And of course, academia is never influenced by industry money.
I think all you proved with those links is you're apparently close to illiterate. The only one that seems to agree with you is clearly a quack site, the others have nothing to do with canola supposedly being bad.
Just a heads-up, people on these forums are used to "health" hucksters, so alternating between pretending you're knowledgeable about the science then attacking the "agenda" of science is really not a good strategy. Do your sales pitch somewhere else.
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Effect of canola oil consumption on memory, synapse and neuropathology in the triple transgenic mouse model of Alzheimer’s disease
Effect of canola oil consumption on memory, synapse and neuropathology in the triple transgenic mouse model of Alzheimer’s disease
Abstract
In recent years consumption of canola oil has increased due to lower cost compared with olive oil and the perception that it shares its health benefits. However, no data are available on the effect of canola oil intake on Alzheimer’s disease (AD) pathogenesis. Herein, we investigated the effect of chronic daily consumption of canola oil on the phenotype of a mouse model of AD that develops both plaques and tangles (3xTg). To this end mice received either regular chow or a chow diet supplemented with canola oil for 6 months. At this time point we found that chronic exposure to the canola-rich diet resulted in a significant increase in body weight and impairments in their working memory together with decrease levels of post-synaptic density protein-95, a marker of synaptic integrity, and an increase in the ratio of insoluble Aβ 42/40. No significant changes were observed in tau phosphorylation and neuroinflammation. Taken together, our findings do not support a beneficial effect of chronic canola oil consumption on two important aspects of AD pathophysiology which includes memory impairments as well as synaptic integrity. While more studies are needed, our data do not justify the current trend aimed at replacing olive oil with canola oil.
In recent years consumption of canola oil has increased due to lower cost compared with olive oil and the perception that it shares its health benefits. However, no data are available on the effect of canola oil intake on Alzheimer’s disease (AD) pathogenesis. Herein, we investigated the effect of chronic daily consumption of canola oil on the phenotype of a mouse model of AD that develops both plaques and tangles (3xTg). To this end mice received either regular chow or a chow diet supplemented with canola oil for 6 months. At this time point we found that chronic exposure to the canola-rich diet resulted in a significant increase in body weight and impairments in their working memory together with decrease levels of post-synaptic density protein-95, a marker of synaptic integrity, and an increase in the ratio of insoluble Aβ 42/40. No significant changes were observed in tau phosphorylation and neuroinflammation. Taken together, our findings do not support a beneficial effect of chronic canola oil consumption on two important aspects of AD pathophysiology which includes memory impairments as well as synaptic integrity. While more studies are needed, our data do not justify the current trend aimed at replacing olive oil with canola oil.
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FYI... I lost 22 pounds in 16 weeks by riding 1200 miles and cutting out all the crap I was eating and drinking. more chicken, less red meat. More salid and fruit and snacks. More water and no sweet drinks.
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Cycling can lead to weight lose if you don't eat junk food and pile on extra calories. Keep it simple. Limit sugar, fat, salt, processed foods, fast foods. Change thoughts about food as a reward, treat, pleasure, etc. Just drink water, and plenty of it. Watch portion sizes. Snack on carrots, bananas, etc. Don't focus on a diet, but your eating habits. Don't get frustrated. Adjust yourself to making a long-term commitment.
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