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Old 04-16-21, 01:03 PM
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Folding Bike Cargo Solution

In a lot of ways, a folding bike is the ideal solution to my situation. It's small, and folds up and fits in a closet at home, which is a major factor when one is sharing a New York City apartment with a wife and three children. It folds up and sits next to my desk in my office (when I go in to the office these days). It lets me almost totally avoid the subway.

The downside is carrying capacity.

So I put one of these on:


Works perfectly. The basket pops on and off the mounting easily, yet stays on securely, even when loaded. And the mount remains on the bicycle and doesn't interfere with folding (at least on my Giant Halfway -- I can't say it would work with every folding bike).

So I can ride the bike to the grocery store, carry the basket into the store, fill it with groceries, pay, put it back on the bike, and ride home.

Perfect. I wish Wald would make a basket that's a bit bigger and compatible with the same mount, but otherwise, it's perfect.
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Old 04-17-21, 09:00 AM
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This where Brompton’s shopping cart mode really shines - 15sec conversion; no need to lock-up outside; frame mounted so no impact to handling/steering. For larger/heavier loads, add a Burley Travoy with good backpack - 30sec conversions; fully hand-carry/hike-able for stairs, subways, etc. and both can still be wheeled-while-folded (one in each hand).
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My Dahon Uno has a super light rear rack and I can use panniers or a trunk bag. I use my Travoy with the Bike Friday pakiT. But for small super light shops (loaf of bread, etc.). I just take a nylon backpack that zips into it's own pocket and open it up and use the hang tab on the top over the ahead stem. Because of the longer drop to the front wheel, it hangs off the bars and doesn't get in the way at all. I always have one of those with me because you never know -- I was out riding last week and accidentally found a bakery that had a rhubarb tarte that looked wonderful. On the BF, no way to bring it home, but I popped open the little nylon backpack sack, set it inside, louped the hang tag and took the side straps over the ends of the bars and it balanced perfectly on top of the bars and ahead stem the entire ride home! Was delicious, too =). Having one of those bags tucked away means I can ride without bags unless I am intentionally shopping and still grab a quick lunch or treat to take home. They're really versatile.
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Originally Posted by reppans View Post
This where Brompton’s shopping cart mode really shines - 15sec conversion; no need to lock-up outside; frame mounted so no impact to handling/steering. For larger/heavier loads, add a Burley Travoy with good backpack - 30sec conversions; fully hand-carry/hike-able for stairs, subways, etc. and both can still be wheeled-while-folded (one in each hand).
Absolutely, and I'd love a Brompton.

On the other hand, bang for buck is a factor too. I got my bike used for $100, and the basket and mounting bracket cost me about $40.
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Nice job! Incidentally, I have tried that brand of folding bike - their design is so smart! They have them at a few bike shops in San Francisco, and also at the Oakland Museum. I'm inspired to see the way my Dahon fits from the smart. Having a way to keep it from flopping around would be fantastic, and you've produced a brilliant solution!
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I just got a Tern Loader G2 rack for my Dahon Speed. Before I saw it
in person, I wasn't sure that it would allow me to use panniers without
my heels hitting them. Now I'm pretty sure that this won't happen and
that this rack is going to work great for me. For utility, I strap a wire
basket to my rack. Unfortunately that blocks my ability to fold
the bicycle. Still though, this setup is super handy. I been bringing
my non-folding bicycles into stores with me since the pandemic started
so, I can do that with this one too. So thumbs up on the Tern Loader G2.
I'm glad that I chose it instead of the heavier, longer, more
expensive Tern Cargo Rack.

Now I need a low rack (close to the fender) for the front.

What can I do with the Dahon luggage socket? Are there any low racks for
it that have a nice, flat area which I can strap a Wald 137 basket to?



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Originally Posted by Nyah View Post

What can I do with the Dahon luggage socket? Are there any low racks for
it that have a nice, flat area which I can strap a Wald 137 basket to?
Buy a Brompton block adapter for the front stem mount and gain one of the great advantages of their bag systems at a non brompton price.

Have a Brompton bag on my Dahon for the last 3 years for commuting.
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I am afraid that it won't be possible to use a front bag with a drop bar,it will hit the bag !
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I am afraid that it won't be possible to use a front bag with a drop bar,it will hit the bag !
That's correct. It would have to be a low rack.
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Tern luggage truss with a basket of your choice by Rixen and Kaul?
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Originally Posted by Jipe View Post
I am afraid that it won't be possible to use a front bag with a drop bar,it will hit the bag !
One of a couple of reasons that nearly all touring bikes fix the rack/bags to the forks or use a handlebar bag.
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But then, does it make sense to use a drop bar on a folder with 20" wheels, when a flat bar (+ bar ends) à la S on a Brompton can take a frame-mounted bag in the front without affecting steering much?

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Originally Posted by Winfried
But then, does it make sense to use a drop bar on a folder with 20" wheels, when a flat bar (+ bar ends) à la S on a Brompton can take a frame-mounted bag in the front without affecting steering much?
Yes, because the setup that you're comparing to the drop-bars has, among others, a major safety disadvantage. Imagine yourself going fast and then having to change your grip position within a split-second in order to apply the brakes.
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Going fast in the city on a folder with 20" wheels?

Besides, it has bar end shifters.
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Going fast in the city on a folder with 20" wheels?
Having to change your grip position in order to slow down is a bad idea, anywhere.


Besides, it has bar end shifters.
Bar-end shift-levers, what of it? Those are not a safety detriment in any way.
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They are since you have to take one hand off the handlebar to change gears.

Brifters would make more sense.
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They are since you have to take one hand off the handlebar to change gears.

Brifters would make more sense.
You are comparing a momentary gear-shift - to riding in a grip position that has both hands unable to reach the brakes.
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. I just take a nylon backpack that zips into it's own pocket and open it up and use the hang tab on the top over the ahead stem. Because of the longer drop to the front wheel, it hangs off the bars and doesn't get in the way at all. ....I popped open the little nylon backpack sack, set it inside, louped the hang tag and took the side straps over the ends of the bars and it balanced perfectly on top of the bars and ahead stem the entire ride home!

What a great idea! Linberl, what brand of backpack do you use? And could you share a photo of the setup? I have a Sea To Summit packable nylon backpack but the "hang tab" looks too small to fit over my BF's stem.
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What a great idea! Linberl, what brand of backpack do you use? And could you share a photo of the setup? I have a Sea To Summit packable nylon backpack but the "hang tab" looks too small to fit over my BF's stem.
They're both cheap little nylon bags, not bought specifically for this purpose. I think I even got one free for some promotion.

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Thx! I see the Gonex one on Amazon for $14 so will order one. Can always use another packable pack.
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Pletscher makes a fantastic rack for 20" bikes. Worth every penny, imo.
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Originally Posted by Nyah View Post
So thumbs up on the Tern Loader G2.
I'm glad that I chose it instead of the heavier, longer, more
expensive Tern Cargo Rack.
That is one slick Dahon Speed! Beauty. Thanks for the thumbs up review of the G2 rack.
Can I ask what fenders those are? I've been looking for a set compatible with 2" big apples.
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Pletscher makes a fantastic rack for 20" bikes. Worth every penny, imo.
Could you post the URL for this? I can't find it on their website.
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...frame mounted so no impact to handling/steering


Because of wheel flop, adding weight to the front of a bicycle has to impact handling/steering. It's physics. The weight speeds up the turning moment. Adding the weight to the fork/handlepost rather than the frame increases the steering's moment of
inertia, which slows down the turning moment and thereby counteracts the effects of the weight.
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Originally Posted by Winfried View Post
They are since you have to take one hand off the handlebar to change gears.
Just to clear this up for anyone who reads this thread: using bar end shifters , the bar is gripped with the thumb+index finger+middle finger while the shift is actuated with the heel of the hand and the ring finger+small finger. One of the advantages of bar end shifters is the hand remains firmly in control of the
steering while shifting.
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