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Old 12-07-21, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Branko D
11 chains aren't any weaker than 9 speed or 10 speed.
It's not a night and day difference but a narrower, smaller chain actually is weaker. It's really more noticeable on single speed chains, 3/32 vs 1/8. You won't see track racers running a 3/32.

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Old 12-07-21, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
It's not a night and day difference but a narrower, smaller chain actually is weaker. It's really more noticeable on single speed chains, 3/32 vs 1/8. You won't see track racers running a 3/32.
ZFC testing comparing various Shimano chains finds that successive chain generations last longer. Chain construction, materials and coating have improved.

https://zerofrictioncycling.com.au/chaintesting/

N=1, but personally, I run 11 speed Dura-ace with a good lube, the chain is fine after 6500km+, and I'm not shy to ride in the big ring and crosschain or shift under torque. The last two chains I changed at 6,652.1 km and 6,351.4 km respectively (tracking mileage via Strava), and they weren't worn down to death yet - in the first case I needed a longer chain because I added an OSPW cage, and in the second case I had my first IM coming around and I wanted everything to be perfect.
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Relevant to this thread, what’s the furthest up a 11-32 10spd cassette you can go in 1t steps?

Shimano goes 11-12-14-16-18-20-22-25-28-32. I’d personally trade some of those bigger cogs for a 13 and even a 15. But not to the point of paying through the nose for a custom cassette.
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Originally Posted by Leinster
Relevant to this thread, what’s the furthest up a 11-32 10spd cassette you can go in 1t steps?

Shimano goes 11-12-14-16-18-20-22-25-28-32. I’d personally trade some of those bigger cogs for a 13 and even a 15. But not to the point of paying through the nose for a custom cassette.

I just bought an 11 speed bike with an 11-28. I missed my 16 so I bought an 11-25. I’ve never had anything bigger than a 23 and only really used my 12-21.

I still remember in my younger days using a 52/42 with a 13-18 straight block rear and climbed everything.
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Originally Posted by mattswabb
I just bought an 11 speed bike with an 11-28. I missed my 16 so I bought an 11-25. I’ve never had anything bigger than a 23 and only really used my 12-21.

I still remember in my younger days using a 52/42 with a 13-18 straight block rear and climbed everything.
Similar; I had 52/42x14-24 6speed on all my bikes. But the hills are bigger where I live now.

Besides which, I’m looking for the 32 for a gravel/off-road bike, and I wouldn’t get up the trails I plan on using it for on 42x24.
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Without reading the thread, the answer is yes.
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Originally Posted by mattswabb
I just bought an 11 speed bike with an 11-28. I missed my 16 so I bought an 11-25. I’ve never had anything bigger than a 23 and only really used my 12-21.

I still remember in my younger days using a 52/42 with a 13-18 straight block rear and climbed everything.
If you’re missing the 16t, then I'd get a 50-34 compact in front if you don't already have one. On a 11 speed, with a 11-28, you get a straight chainline in the 14t and mostly straight in 13t and 15t.

55-42 is still on sale and fits on Shimano compact cranksets; got it on a TT bike but ehhhh it's not the sort of thing I'd take up some local 10+% climbs, which I'll gladly take on my road bike. Then again I wouldn't take the TT bike down the same descents, so that's fair that it's not good for climbing up them.
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Originally Posted by SquishyBiker
Looking at my bike shopping for 2022, and I've come to the realization that maybe sticking with Shimano 10sp is going to simplify most of my fleet:
  • eCommuter: currently 1x10
  • Drop bar rd: currently 3x10 (likely replace with a new bike in 2022 with GRX 2x10)
  • Flat bar rd: currently 3x10
  • Mtb hardtail: currently 2x9
  • Mtb trail: currently 1x11 (replacing with a Scott Spark 960 with Shimano XTd 1x12)
Apart from the mtb trail, which is being replaced with a 1x12 bike, it makes sense for the other bikes to all be 10sp drivelines, then I can keep spare chains and links readily available.

Has anyone else settled on 10sp drive-trains for their general road bikes?
I've got a 2x10sp setup on my Fargo for touring which is awesome.
24/38t chainrings, 11-46 cassette with a Wheels MFG extender
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YES! Especially if the cassette has a small cog of 12 versus 11. I use a Shimano Tiagra 4600 Group with 3X crank. More than meets my needs and has been bulletproof. My second bike is a 2X5 vintage Peugeot with 14-28 freewheel. It was fine when I was younger, now it is less than optimal, in the same way an old car with a 4 speed clutch. But BOTH are still fun, but not my daily driver/ride.
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Originally Posted by Leinster
Relevant to this thread, what’s the furthest up a 11-32 10spd cassette you can go in 1t steps?
Shimano goes 11-12-14-16-18-20-22-25-28-32. I’d personally trade some of those bigger cogs for a 13 and even a 15. But not to the point of paying through the nose for a custom cassette.
Sram and Sunrace do 11-12-13-15-17--19-21-24-28-32 in 3 different 11-32t road cassettes
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