Bianchi Vittoria
06-02-22, 09:01 AM
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06-02-22, 09:18 AM
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06-02-22, 09:22 AM
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seat is not ripped. It's the seat cover that's ripped. The seat cover is removable. There's the original Bianchi seat
06-02-22, 09:51 AM
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If it is damage, the bike is at best unreliable and at worst a health hazard, even life-threatening. In other words, it is no joke.
06-02-22, 09:58 AM
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I would, at a minimum give it a thorough inspection and even consider putting a straight edge on the downtube in order to detect any deformation. I know it isn't convenient, but getting the bike to a reputable show where they have experience with such issues might be advisable.
If it is damage, the bike is at best unreliable and at worst a health hazard, even life-threatening. In other words, it is no joke.
If it is damage, the bike is at best unreliable and at worst a health hazard, even life-threatening. In other words, it is no joke.
06-02-22, 12:51 PM
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Every lugged frame with evidence of front-end crash damage I've ever seen has had the paint cracks occurring at the point of the lug, a.k.a. the can-opener effect, and not an inch or more further down the tube.
As those of us who have spent years riding with down-tube shifters know, that rusty spot is typical abrasion damage from the right hand thumbnail scraping the paint during each shift. That's an unusually large area of rust, though, which suggests to me that the cracks in the paint represent migration of the rust under the paint. If the cracks in the paint are present only on the right side of the down tube, as appears to be the case in the photos, that would argue against the damage having resulted from front-end impact.
That said, if I were considering buying it, I'd be concerned about the rust propagation and what it portends for the reliability of the frame. I'd probably either negotiate a lower price, with the costs of eventually repainting the bike in mind, or else pass on the bike.
As those of us who have spent years riding with down-tube shifters know, that rusty spot is typical abrasion damage from the right hand thumbnail scraping the paint during each shift. That's an unusually large area of rust, though, which suggests to me that the cracks in the paint represent migration of the rust under the paint. If the cracks in the paint are present only on the right side of the down tube, as appears to be the case in the photos, that would argue against the damage having resulted from front-end impact.
That said, if I were considering buying it, I'd be concerned about the rust propagation and what it portends for the reliability of the frame. I'd probably either negotiate a lower price, with the costs of eventually repainting the bike in mind, or else pass on the bike.
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06-03-22, 02:45 PM
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Did you buy?
I have a celeste frame with Formula One tubing, 59cm - still in final build, so I cannot comment on the ride quality.
I have a celeste frame with Formula One tubing, 59cm - still in final build, so I cannot comment on the ride quality.
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06-04-22, 03:27 AM
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06-04-22, 03:29 AM
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Every lugged frame with evidence of front-end crash damage I've ever seen has had the paint cracks occurring at the point of the lug, a.k.a. the can-opener effect, and not an inch or more further down the tube.
As those of us who have spent years riding with down-tube shifters know, that rusty spot is typical abrasion damage from the right hand thumbnail scraping the paint during each shift. That's an unusually large area of rust, though, which suggests to me that the cracks in the paint represent migration of the rust under the paint. If the cracks in the paint are present only on the right side of the down tube, as appears to be the case in the photos, that would argue against the damage having resulted from front-end impact.
That said, if I were considering buying it, I'd be concerned about the rust propagation and what it portends for the reliability of the frame. I'd probably either negotiate a lower price, with the costs of eventually repainting the bike in mind, or else pass on the bike.
As those of us who have spent years riding with down-tube shifters know, that rusty spot is typical abrasion damage from the right hand thumbnail scraping the paint during each shift. That's an unusually large area of rust, though, which suggests to me that the cracks in the paint represent migration of the rust under the paint. If the cracks in the paint are present only on the right side of the down tube, as appears to be the case in the photos, that would argue against the damage having resulted from front-end impact.
That said, if I were considering buying it, I'd be concerned about the rust propagation and what it portends for the reliability of the frame. I'd probably either negotiate a lower price, with the costs of eventually repainting the bike in mind, or else pass on the bike.
