Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Fifty Plus (50+)
Reload this Page >

I found out if you crash hard enough to break your helmet....

Notices
Fifty Plus (50+) Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.

I found out if you crash hard enough to break your helmet....

Old 07-04-15, 03:21 PM
  #1  
Wileyrat
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Tucson Az
Posts: 1,613

Bikes: 2015 Ridley Fenix, 1983 Team Fuji, 2019 Marin Nail Trail 6, and a few dust collectors

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 321 Post(s)
Liked 168 Times in 110 Posts
I found out if you crash hard enough to break your helmet....

On Fathers Day, I was riding my mtn bike to the desert preserve near my house to do some trail riding, and I managed to crash pretty hard on the way. Well, I snapped my head sideways when I hit the ground and cracked my helmet in 4 places, not to mention the gravel dings that could've been my head instead. I walked away with some road rash, a very sore shoulder, and probably another concussion.

Anyway, when I started o look at new helmets, I found out that my wife is having absolutely no issues anymore with how much I want to spend on a helmet.

I guess that's turning lemons into lemonade.

BTW, the bike is fine, I broke it's fall.
Wileyrat is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 03:58 PM
  #2  
osco53
Old Fart In Training
 
osco53's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,266
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 22 Times in 16 Posts
Go for more coverage in the back, spending big bucks is not needed, fit is everything.
3/4 helmets are what I moved Into.

My $95 Bontrager Rally fits my head real well, the sun visor Is nice and having a bit more of the back side of my head protected makes me feel better.
The Lithos, a bit more weight has a bit more comfort for $150 but Mine Is so light I never feel it, saw no need to spend the extra Fity and have an extra 100 grams up there....


,
,
Of course If you gotta be branded and wear whats all over the magazines you can pay north of $250 I think for a POC, The one I tried on felt no better..
just sayin....

Last edited by osco53; 11-29-16 at 06:32 AM.
osco53 is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 04:20 PM
  #3  
MinnMan
Senior Member
 
MinnMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 4,085

Bikes: 2020 Salsa Warbird GRX 600, 2020 Canyon Ultimate CF SLX disc 9.0 Di2, 2020 Catrike Eola, 2016 Masi cxgr, 2011, Felt F3 Ltd, 2010 Trek 2.1, 2009 KHS Flite 220

Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2965 Post(s)
Liked 1,828 Times in 1,101 Posts
I invested in a MIPS helmet earlier this year- it's supposed to help with rotation-related concussion effects. But sadly, the helmet (GIRO Savant MIPS) broke less than 2 months later - the tightening wheel to the temple strap snapped off. So I can't really recommend it. It seemed like a good thought, but now I'm back using my old helmet, contemplating what to do next...
MinnMan is online now  
Old 07-04-15, 04:39 PM
  #4  
wphamilton
Senior Member
 
wphamilton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Posts: 15,280

Bikes: Nashbar Road

Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2932 Post(s)
Liked 333 Times in 223 Posts
Be glad that you walked away with only minor injuries; there's a random element there. I'm encouraging to get whatever helmet you want, if that helps any.
wphamilton is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 04:41 PM
  #5  
OldsCOOL
Senior Member
 
OldsCOOL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: northern michigan
Posts: 13,249

Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 644 Post(s)
Liked 501 Times in 273 Posts
Nobody likes my Vetta anymore.....

OldsCOOL is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 05:29 PM
  #6  
Old School
Senior Member
 
Old School's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Camino, CA
Posts: 1,181

Bikes: Trek 5500 OCLV, Trek Fuel EX 9

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Went down on my mountain bike a few years ago. An inexpensive Bell helmet probably saved me from a concussion (and possibly saved my life). I still occasionally see a rider without a helmet and just shake my head. If you are serious about riding, wear a helmet -- every time!
Old School is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 05:37 PM
  #7  
jmiked
Senior Member
 
jmiked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 141

Bikes: Specialized Camber Elite 29er

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
A buddy and I (both over 70 years old) were resting while riding the trails in a local park last year when a guy in his early twenties came by and stopped for a moment. He wasn't wearing a helmet. My buddy asked him if he knew what people called a guy who didn't wear a helmet. The guy smiled and my buddy said "An organ donor." The fellow said "I don't need to wear a helmet, I know how to fall."

Right.
jmiked is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 05:46 PM
  #8  
wphamilton
Senior Member
 
wphamilton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Posts: 15,280

Bikes: Nashbar Road

Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2932 Post(s)
Liked 333 Times in 223 Posts
You guys are putting out bait for the non-helmet types to chime in.

Regardless OP Wileyrat likes his helmet and wants a new one. I say after going through that fall he rates all of the bells and whistles and we should be supportive, not making fun of some random 20-something.
wphamilton is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 05:58 PM
  #9  
B. Carfree
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Eugene, Oregon
Posts: 7,048
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 509 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Originally Posted by jmiked View Post
A buddy and I (both over 70 years old) were resting while riding the trails in a local park last year when a guy in his early twenties came by and stopped for a moment. He wasn't wearing a helmet. My buddy asked him if he knew what people called a guy who didn't wear a helmet. The guy smiled and my buddy said "An organ donor."
I thought that was what people called unathletic old men who ride bikes (or drive cars) without doing the recommended core training, gymnastics, weight work, weight loss, hearing checks and vision exams.

Sorry to others for being impolite, but the helmet nazi crap needs to be confined to the helmet thread in A&S.
B. Carfree is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 06:00 PM
  #10  
Wileyrat
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Tucson Az
Posts: 1,613

Bikes: 2015 Ridley Fenix, 1983 Team Fuji, 2019 Marin Nail Trail 6, and a few dust collectors

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 321 Post(s)
Liked 168 Times in 110 Posts
I was wearing my Giro Venti when I went down, and since I was able to sit down and enjoy my Fathers Day dinner that afternoon, it did it's job very well. I've had issues with it's airflow, and I retired it as my main road helmet in favor of a Garneau Quartz II, which has airflow similar to a leaf blower, and I'm looking at another Garneau for the same reason.
Wileyrat is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 06:18 PM
  #11  
Jseis 
Other Worldly Member
 
Jseis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: The old Northwest Coast.
Posts: 1,539

Bikes: 1973 Motobecane Grand Jubilee, 1981 Centurion Super LeMans, 2010 Gary Fisher Wahoo, 2003 Colnago Dream Lux, 2014 Giant Defy 1, 2015 Framed Bikes Minnesota 3.0, several older family Treks

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 193 Post(s)
Liked 131 Times in 48 Posts
I cracked my Costco Bell a couple of years ago in a nasty wreck. Many months later I was going through my Runmeter ride data & graph and noticed there was a gap of about 20 seconds where I was stopped and not moving. After the crackup I suspected I'd had a concussion as I came to gasping for breath. The ride data confirmed my suspicion that'd I'd actually simultaneously knocked myself out and knocked the wind out of me when my right elbow jammed into my rib cage. I likely lay there for as long as it took for that involuntary breathing to try to take a breath, thus jar me to consciousness. As my head hit asphalt, probably saved me a nasty head wound and worse concussion. Never wore a helmet in the early/mid 70's...always as an adult.
__________________
Make Amerika Grate Cheese Again
Jseis is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 06:52 PM
  #12  
MikeWMass
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: western Massachusetts (greater Springfield area)
Posts: 596

Bikes: Velosolex St. Tropez, LeMond Zurich (spine bike), Rotator swb recumbent

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by B. Carfree View Post
Sorry to others for being impolite, but the helmet nazi crap needs to be confined to the helmet thread in A&S.
See you in the ER. I have a broken helmet and a fractured C7, but only missed one day of work.
MikeWMass is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 06:58 PM
  #13  
big john
Senior Member
 
big john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 16,813
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2971 Post(s)
Liked 2,308 Times in 1,267 Posts
Originally Posted by MinnMan View Post
I invested in a MIPS helmet earlier this year- it's supposed to help with rotation-related concussion effects. But sadly, the helmet (GIRO Savant MIPS) broke less than 2 months later - the tightening wheel to the temple strap snapped off. So I can't really recommend it. It seemed like a good thought, but now I'm back using my old helmet, contemplating what to do next...
Didn't Giro warranty it for you? I've heard they are really good about that stuff.
big john is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 07:06 PM
  #14  
ltxi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Colorado
Posts: 1,719
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 258 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Wileyrat....apropos of pretty much nothing, I began my adult cycling "career" in Tucson 35 years ago. Put in a fair number of miles around there...good memories. No helmet back then, none of us wore them. Now in my 70's and with much less to lose I'll no longer sit a bike without one.
ltxi is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 07:32 PM
  #15  
COG63
stoic yankee
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: E-Rock Cnty, NH.
Posts: 41

Bikes: Cannondale Synapse, Specialized Roubaix.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jmiked View Post
A buddy and I (both over 70 years old) were resting while riding the trails in a local park last year when a guy in his early twenties came by and stopped for a moment. He wasn't wearing a helmet. My buddy asked him if he knew what people called a guy who didn't wear a helmet. The guy smiled and my buddy said "An organ donor." The fellow said "I don't need to wear a helmet, I know how to fall."

Right.
Ha! That's what I call motorcyclists with no helmets! Been down twice, once with a helmet and once way back when they pretty much didn't exist (yeah I'm old). Both times did a lot of damage, road rash, torn bicep, cracked ribs, broken teeth when my mouth slammed shut on impact, but I've never hit my head, thank god, or the state highway dept. would be really P.O.ed. with me.
COG63 is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 08:08 PM
  #16  
Mobile 155
Senior Member
 
Mobile 155's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex
Posts: 5,059

Bikes: 2013 Haro FL Comp 29er MTB.

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1470 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 41 Times in 32 Posts
Originally Posted by Wileyrat View Post
On Fathers Day, I was riding my mtn bike to the desert preserve near my house to do some trail riding, and I managed to crash pretty hard on the way. Well, I snapped my head sideways when I hit the ground and cracked my helmet in 4 places, not to mention the gravel dings that could've been my head instead. I walked away with some road rash, a very sore shoulder, and probably another concussion.

Anyway, when I started o look at new helmets, I found out that my wife is having absolutely no issues anymore with how much I want to spend on a helmet.

I guess that's turning lemons into lemonade.

BTW, the bike is fine, I broke it's fall.
Once you make the decision to get a helmet the "get a helmet" debate is closed. The only other thing that matters is Fit, weight, airflow and style. Add rank to any of the four as you like. The only problem I have with expensive helmets for MTBs is we, or at least I, fall more on a MTB and helmets aren't designed for multiple impacts. So an endo, flying W or simple hard get off and you are looking for a new helmet. My ultra light, insert expensive because light equals expensive, is used almost exclusively with my road bikes. My normal helmet, insert much better price for the same air flow and 100 grams more weight, is used for MTBing.
Mobile 155 is offline  
Old 07-04-15, 09:24 PM
  #17  
zonatandem
Senior Member
 
zonatandem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 11,017

Bikes: Custom Zona c/f tandem + Scott Plasma single

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 75 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 14 Times in 7 Posts
My riding days go back to the leather 'hairnet' helmets back in the '70s in Tucson. Yup, still wear a helmet at age 82.
zonatandem is offline  
Old 07-05-15, 08:48 PM
  #18  
Old School
Senior Member
 
Old School's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Camino, CA
Posts: 1,181

Bikes: Trek 5500 OCLV, Trek Fuel EX 9

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by zonatandem View Post
My riding days go back to the leather 'hairnet' helmets back in the '70s in Tucson. Yup, still wear a helmet at age 82.
For those of you who have no idea want zonatandem is referring to, I give you:

Attached Images
File Type: jpg
5054663404_2ebd634011.jpg (68.0 KB, 25 views)
Old School is offline  
Old 07-05-15, 10:32 PM
  #19  
David Bierbaum
Senior Member
 
David Bierbaum's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: St. Louis Metro East area
Posts: 1,630

Bikes: 1992 Specialized Crossroads (red)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 26 Post(s)
Liked 32 Times in 17 Posts
Wow. You can get off your bike and immediately begin playing Rugby...
David Bierbaum is offline  
Old 07-06-15, 01:25 AM
  #20  
Gerryattrick
Beicwyr Hapus
 
Gerryattrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Cambria Australis
Posts: 1,516

Bikes: Genesis Equilibrium, Genesis Datum, Whyte 901 Dawes 701,1973 Harry Hall

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 144 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts
This is my helmet after a fall last year. It resulted in me waking up in an ambulance on my way to hospital and concussion, but I suspect that that was preferable to my bare skull hitting the hard ground.




Excuse the upside down pic, I think I must still have concussion!!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
image.jpg (76.5 KB, 44 views)
File Type: jpg
image.jpg (85.6 KB, 41 views)
Gerryattrick is offline  
Old 07-06-15, 09:29 AM
  #21  
Biker395 
Seat Sniffer
 
Biker395's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SoCal
Posts: 5,197

Bikes: 2008 Scott CR1 Pro; 2006 Schwinn Fastback Pro and 1996 Colnago Decor Super C96; 2003 Univega Alpina 700; 2000 Schwinn Super Sport

Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 749 Post(s)
Liked 691 Times in 281 Posts
Originally Posted by David Bierbaum View Post
Wow. You can get off your bike and immediately begin playing Rugby...
+1 lol
__________________
Proud parent of a happy inner child ...

Biker395 is offline  
Old 07-06-15, 10:08 PM
  #22  
capejohn
Senior Member
 
capejohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fairhaven, Massachusetts
Posts: 1,848

Bikes: Novara Randonee, Felt Z45, Scott Sub 40, Marin Belvedere Commuter

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 8 Posts
Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
You guys are putting out bait for the non-helmet types to chime in.

Regardless OP Wileyrat likes his helmet and wants a new one. I say after going through that fall he rates all of the bells and whistles and we should be supportive, not making fun of some random 20-something.
+10. I always get a kick out of the survivor stories when a helmet thread comes up.

Last edited by capejohn; 08-03-15 at 04:45 PM.
capejohn is offline  
Old 07-07-15, 07:20 AM
  #23  
qcpmsame 
Semper Fi
 
qcpmsame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Barrineau Park, Florida
Posts: 12,803

Bikes: 1980 Medici Pro Strada, 1984 Tommasini Prestige, 2012 Cannondale CAAD 10 Ultegra

Mentioned: 88 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1138 Post(s)
Liked 210 Times in 160 Posts
Originally Posted by capejohn View Post
+10. I always get a kick out of the survivor stories when a helmet threat comes up.
I think you nailed it with this one, even if it was unintentional.

Bill
__________________
Semper Fi, USMC, 1975-1977

I Can Do All Things Through Him, Who Gives Me Strength. Philippians 4:13


qcpmsame is offline  
Old 07-07-15, 08:00 AM
  #24  
Retro Grouch 
Senior Member
 
Retro Grouch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Posts: 30,153

Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1545 Post(s)
Liked 537 Times in 316 Posts
Originally Posted by jmiked View Post
The fellow said "I don't need to wear a helmet, I know how to fall."
That's my problem! I'm still learning how to fall and I'm getting more practice than I'd like. Maybe that young fellow and I could learn some things from one another.

Besides, Mrs. Grouch grouches at me if I ride up to the hardware store without a helmet.
__________________
My greatest fear is all of my kids standing around my coffin and talking about "how sensible" dad was.
Retro Grouch is offline  
Old 07-07-15, 09:17 AM
  #25  
SammyJ 
Senior Member
 
SammyJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Summerville SC
Posts: 577

Bikes: 2012 Caad 8 105; 1994 Trek 5500

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
Liked 17 Times in 10 Posts
Glad you walked away from that!
__________________
I have NEVER regretted going on a ride;
I have often regretted not going when I could have!


I am grateful for the headwind that challenged me today!
I am grateful for the tailwind that helped me go fast!


Clydesdales and Athenas Strava Club
https://www.strava.com/clubs/clydesda...bikeforums-net
SammyJ is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.