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Old 03-23-19, 04:31 PM
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Doh! I forgot I don't have a pic 8n my tablet only in my phone. So here's the iron-man trek. I sent this pic to my riding buddy who I had in mind when I built this uhhh thing.

Not a good pic but it's trek so just as well, hehe
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...Alright gents, what chain lube do you use? I know C-Cat uses wax. What about the rest of you. Me, I'm sticking with wd40 but the walmart equivalent...
WD-40 is okay as a short term lube. I once used it instead of grease on hubs just before a 75 mile ride that included an impromptu 50+ mph drafting of a truck. Not my brightest idea. But the hubs and bearings were fine when I checked them a few days later. I switched back to grease. There was no discernible advantage to using oil instead of grease, and oil wouldn't keep out water and debris as effectively. And the clicking noise of the bearings without grease was annoying.

But as a chain lube redone every couple of weeks or month, should be fine.

Besides wax, I touch up the waxed chains occasionally with Boeshield T-9. Also a very light lube that needs to be replenished often, and is mostly a protective film rather than lube.

I also use Park CL-1 oily wet lube on my Univega, but will probably switch it to wax next time I replace the chain.

Since my bikes stay indoors and I have three cats, waxed chains are cleaner. No chain mark cattoos or shintoos.
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Originally Posted by texaspandj View Post
Alright gents, what chain lube do you use? I know C-Cat uses wax. What about the rest of you. Me, I'm sticking with wd40 but the walmart equivalent. HeHe. Every time I type HeHe I think of markwesti. He's mischievous.
I tend to use Tri-Flow or some Ritchey lube that i have, Wipe down the chain real good to get any crud off of it, then lube link plates and rollers one at a time. let it sit for a few mins and wipe down .
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I use Boeshield T9. Its not messy but your chain will give you black tattoo if you get against the big ring. I clean the chain with wd-40 or mineral spirits depending on how dirty it is then put a drop on every link then spin it a few times. I let it sit a while or even till the next day then wipe the residue off usually with some paper towels. I go anywhere from 100-200 miles depending on how lazy I am. My chains usually last about 3000 miles and I have never had one squeak or maybe I am just too old and deaf to hear it.
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My latest temporary Ironman experiment -- to see if my hybrid's wheelset with 8-speed freehub and 11-32 cassette would fit and function in friction mode, using the stock Suntour GPX derailleur. The wheelset is Alexrims S500, 622x14, on generic unlabeled loose bearing hubs with 8-speed freehub.

Yup, it works... just barely. Gotta be extremely careful to avoid shifting into the 32T rear cog while in the big chainring. It will shift into the 28T cog, but is crosschained so badly it's not worth using.

And even with the B-screw turned fully in the two smallest cogs still drag against the pulley cages. So shifting is much more critical with this combo of 11-32 8-speed.

This was mostly an experiment to pinpoint a persistent creak in my hybrid. Turned out to be the spokes in this rear wheel. The black painted or enameled spokes began rubbing each other the wrong way. Happened after I went off a low rounded curb. Didn't throw the wheel out of true, but did cause it to creak and squeak. Destressing and retightening the spokes and soft wax at the junction points quieted the creaking.

Not a bad wheelset. A bit heavier than the Araya CTL-370 and Suntour GPX hubs. I'm not sure I'm strong enough for the semi-aero rim profile to matter. And I used the slightly heavier set of 700x25 Conti Ultra Sport 2 tires from last year, at lower pressure, around 75 front, 85 rear. My average speed over 50 miles seemed about the same, hard to tell due to stiff winds. Strava's power guesstimation calculator shows my average power was a little lower than usual on the same circuit routes I usually ride.

The 11T cog was interesting for a couple of fast downhill runs. I wasn't spun out as I usually am with the 50T big ring and 13T smallest cog on the freewheel. And the 28T next-to-big-cog was handy on a couple of hills into headwinds. I'm hoping I won't need the 32T cog with a 39T or 38T small chainring for awhile.

But the original Araya rims are going back on the Ironman. I already miss the index shifting. Now I'll need to redo the rear derailleur but it shouldn't be difficult.

Ironman with wheelset borrowed from Univega hybrid.

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Yup, it handled the 11-32 8-speed cassette... just barely. Probably helped that I'd switched to a 50/39 chainring.

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Quite a stretch. Suntour GPX RD just barely handles the 28T rear cog with the chain in the 50T chainring. No way it would handle the 32 cog without damage. B-screw was fully seated to reduce pulley drag in the 39T front/32T rear cog combo.

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Crosschaining isn't pretty.
If you look closely where the spokes cross you can see some residue from the red scented candle wax I used to stop the creaking noises coming from friction between the black coated spokes.


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Alexrims S500 wheelset off my Univega hybrid. The 622x14 rims are sorta roadie oriented. I may get a 622x19 wheelset for the hybrid to take larger, softer tires.

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Old 03-24-19, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TXsailor View Post
I use Boeshield T9. Its not messy but your chain will give you black tattoo if you get against the big ring. I clean the chain with wd-40 or mineral spirits depending on how dirty it is then put a drop on every link then spin it a few times. I let it sit a while or even till the next day then wipe the residue off usually with some paper towels. I go anywhere from 100-200 miles depending on how lazy I am. My chains usually last about 3000 miles and I have never had one squeak or maybe I am just too old and deaf to hear it.
Ditto, Boeshield T-9. I use it to touch up my waxed chains if I'm lagging behind on redipping in the crock pot of wax. It produces black grime like any wet lube but cleans up better than most. An old napkin dampened with rubbing alcohol will clean off most of the external grime.

Boeshield also works to restore some smoothness to old cables/housings if we don't have time or money to completely replace with new cables and housings. I've postponed replacing those for a few months by using T-9 to slick up the oxidized cables. It wicks quickly down the cable. Less messy and smelly than WD-40.
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'89 STB. Tricolor 7 speed gripshift.


Over cast lighting. The second generation 8 speed tri color shifts so smoothly matched with the 7 speed gripshift. To the point you're not sure it shifted. Aero seatpost, aero bars and tricolor crankset, brakeset, and derailleurs.

This is how I ride it. It's 52cm instead of my regular 54cm. Although it's about as dialed in as I could want, I'm still gonna make it 9 speed dura ace...eventually. It's my Friday rider.
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So what's the stuff wrapped around the stem/bars?
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Old 03-24-19, 07:04 PM
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For lubes/grease, I use auto parts store house brands. Silicone spray inside the frame instead of Frame Saver. High temp bearing grease for the headset and BB. For cleaning parts, I mix brake cleaner, a penetrant, dish soap and something like Simply Green. I dip the part in and go at it with a toothbrush. One of these days I will buy an ultrasonic cleaner. For rust spots on paint, I use vinegar, and a rinse. Then I apply rust stopping primer with a Q-tip. After that, I apply a clear protector like fingernail polish with another Q-tip.
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One thing I don't use anymore is ordinary electrical tape to tape cables to the handlebars or finish off bar wrap. It could be the humidity here, but the adhesive on the back will get liquidy/gooey and make a mess.
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The chain man, what about the chain?
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My riding buddy and I went on a 18 mile ride today. He uses a Garmin and asked him to calculate mileage because we were going on a different route. When we finally got to the last half mile then turnaround he started using some choice words directed to me because we were on our hilly course. I told him it was for his own good, hehe.
I was riding the trek and he in his Ironman. The 56cm trek rode well and felt much like my Ironman. So no real complaints about it...well other than it'd not an Ironman. I thought the lighter weight would help on the hills but the first hill is steep but short probably a 1/4 mile. I don't know the grade but itll get you to 40mph on the down side before you get to the bottom, if that tells you anything. I stayed within a bike length as we headed up but I paid the price as I thought my heart was gonna explode. I was in the next easiest gear. I actually never used the easiest gear the 42x28. I recovered well enough as I lead the last 1/2 mile hill before direct turnaround. Actually at that point, we traded bikes. I adjusted the height of his saddle, easy enough as I had measured before we headed out and the trek has a quick release seat bolt. Unfortunately I didn't change saddle height for his bike I was riding. Weirdly were the same height but his saddle is set way lower than mine but it doesn't look like his legs are shorter than mine. I finally said man I wish I had brought an allen wrench, he said there's one in the saddle bag. As soon as I pulled them out I recognized they were what I use, he said you gave those to me. It was a 4,5,6. I put the same things in all my saddle bags. 3 Allen wrenches, a new spare tube, tire levers, 35mm canister of quarters, and 4 benadryl pills. Then I wrap a toestrap around-the outside of the seatbag. So we pulled over and I adjusted and we were on our way.
I can tell you but you probably already know, the trek 5900 handled so very similar to the Ironman however it's lighter. It is quick handling like the '88s and '89s too.
Afterwards I said dude the tires on your ironman are hard! He said I was gonna say the same thing about the trek.
Afterwards I went on a lone ride aboard my exceptionally smooth riding and shifting '89 Ironman. Later Irongents.

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The chain man, what about the chain?
Currently it is Liquid Wrench chain lube.
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So what's the stuff wrapped around the stem/bars?
I have my phone holder wrapped around the stem. And then the usual elbow rest, inner tube bar wrap, and gripshift.
The hoods are switched/reversed, the left hood is on the right and vice versa. I got em like that on my '88 master, however I've left them for fear if I changed them back I would tear them.
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Currently it is Liquid Wrench chain lube.
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Liquid Wrench chain lube works great. I just hate the smell.
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Liquid Wrench chain lube works great. I just hate the smell.
Funny you mentioned the smell. This is the current bearing grease until it is empty. As I am going down the road, I get a whiff of it coming from somewhere.

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I have my phone holder wrapped around the stem...
"Phone" holder.

Here's my next "phone" holder bike.


My kinda "phone" holder bike handlebar accessory.
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. As I am going down the road, I get a whiff of it coming from somewhere.
I'm gonna let this one go.
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I'm gonna let this one go.
I was originally going to write, "coming from the headset or BB." Then I realized I used it on all the bearings on the bike.
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OK , I messed that up . It's not crystal blue , it's Summer time blues . don't be afraid to slap me around a little , mswesti does it all the time .


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@markwesti did Mrs Westi first say "I'm gonna slap you around a little and make you like it"?
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New (to me) 87 Master

The closest I've owned to a time capsule bike. Paint is near flawless. I have only noticed one part that is not original. Can you spot it?

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