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1971 Carlton Kermesse Resto

Old 08-12-22, 09:26 PM
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1971 Carlton Kermesse Resto

Back in 2020, cudak 888 and I did a trade. He got a bronze-orange Peugeot PX 10 frameset and I got a 1971 Carlton Kermesse. The photo below is as he originally traded for it:



This next photo is as pretty much as I received it after cudak 888 put a lot of sweat equity into it:



This is the as finished restoration after the COVID slow down:



Detail shot of the pinch bolt lugs which had to be cut off and re-fabricated:


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Wow! That's pretty
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DAMN, that's a pretty bike. I got nuthin else
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Funny, I think I know both those bikes. And, yes, this one is nicer
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what a beautiful job and result!

recall the examples from this time as being constructed with the aerfoil seat stay bridge

cannot quite tell from the posted images if the frame exhibits this fitting

perhaps some of the Worksop mavens could write something regarding its employment...


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I can't tell what your brakes are, but if Campi hoods fit, I have some white oem hoods i would give you for the cost of shipping. I think they are ugly, but they might just work on that bike.
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Originally Posted by bertinjim
Back in 2020, cudak 888 and I did a trade. He got a bronze-orange Peugeot PX 10 frameset and I got a 1971 Carlton Kermesse.
What's the bike weigh, as built?

I have a similar size frame to build, also Tru-Wel.
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The bike, without pump, tool bag, bottle cage or bottle weighted 22 lbs with the tubular wheels shown in the photo. It rides really well. It's a 59 cm frame measured center to top.

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The brakes are early Weinmann 605s with later Weinmann 400 levers with Soma Campy style replacement hoods (very comfortable). I had considered the white Somas but decided that the maintenance on them would not be worth any esthetic advantage. Thank you for the offer, however.
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juvela -

Thank you for the kind words for the bike. Oddly, it does not have the airfoil rear brake bridge which is typical of these bikes. This is a 1971 based on the forged Zeus fork and stay ends. I have seen '72 and '73 photos with the pressed dropouts that show the aero profile bridge. The bridge that is there is a one piece unit with a central bulge to accommodate the brake pivot.
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Originally Posted by juvela
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cannot quite tell from the posted images if the frame exhibits this fitting
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You can see the rear brake bridge in the stripped frame photo.
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Originally Posted by Bad Lag
You can see the rear brake bridge in the stripped frame photo.

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yes, thank you

had enlarged an scrutinized that image but me auld luma receptors could still not tell [ ]

curious to learn if aerfoil bridge may be a Davis or a Haden product, for example


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this project would be a fine one for inclusion in the "before & after" thread

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Originally Posted by bertinjim


This is the as finished restoration after the COVID slow down:

I normally avoid quoting photos but this is just so nice, it is worthy of another viewing.
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