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TP you are going way out on a limb on this one. The manufacturer will charge for everything extra over a bare bones car. Bikes do the same. Add a sun roof or a built in bike rack or a trailer hitch and you will get charged for it.
Chrysler used to charge extra for the car radio as an option. They got hammered for it and so they made them standard, and tacked the price on at the base price. That is just how it works.
No one would be happy to pay for a bike rack that 99 percent of the owners would never use. It would be like making a car free person buy an oil recovery pan in case they ever helped someone change their oil.
Chrysler used to charge extra for the car radio as an option. They got hammered for it and so they made them standard, and tacked the price on at the base price. That is just how it works.
No one would be happy to pay for a bike rack that 99 percent of the owners would never use. It would be like making a car free person buy an oil recovery pan in case they ever helped someone change their oil.
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https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/regi...-number-plates
Among other things ...
You can be fined if:
• the rack is not removed when the vehicle is being driven without a bike being carried.
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I don't think your mother needs to buy a bike rack if she won't use it, but I don't think it would hurt her to have one built into a car she buys if it doesn't add significantly to the cost. Many standard items are included on cars that aren't really necessary. Why does everyone need to pay for carpeted floors and ceilings, for example? Why not just leave them bare? Rivets? Why not just spray-coat them? What about having non-upholstered seats made out of flexible plastic? Glove boxes? Why? Molded dash board, consoles, steering wheels, etc.? The price of cars/trucks could be much lower if none of these items were included standard.
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TP you are going way out on a limb on this one. The manufacturer will charge for everything extra over a bare bones car. Bikes do the same. Add a sun roof or a built in bike rack or a trailer hitch and you will get charged for it.
Chrysler used to charge extra for the car radio as an option. They got hammered for it and so they made them standard, and tacked the price on at the base price. That is just how it works.
Chrysler used to charge extra for the car radio as an option. They got hammered for it and so they made them standard, and tacked the price on at the base price. That is just how it works.
No one would be happy to pay for a bike rack that 99 percent of the owners would never use. It would be like making a car free person buy an oil recovery pan in case they ever helped someone change their oil.
Incidentally, you'd also have to change the law regarding bicycle racks on vehicles.
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/regi...-number-plates
Among other things ...
You can be fined if:
• the rack is not removed when the vehicle is being driven without a bike being carried.
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/regi...-number-plates
Among other things ...
You can be fined if:
• the rack is not removed when the vehicle is being driven without a bike being carried.
I told you. Because it puts me in the awkward position of retracting my position in order to avoid offending you personally regarding your mother.
The reason unnecessary items are included for everybody is economy of scale. If nearly everybody needs or wants an item it will often be more economical to include it for everyone rather than tool up to make it optional and deal with the impact in terms of administrative overhead, assembly procedures, etc. It's not up to you to tell the world what should be standard on an automobile. Auto makers have been making those decisions for years and years and have all that worked out pretty well including various factors of which you are probably not even aware.
All I'm saying is that it would be a good idea to build bike racks into car/truck frames because the roof/chassis already has structural longitudinal beams that would function as the base for poles that could extend and retract from the roof. That way, instead of having to mount and dismount a bike rack on a trailer hitch or from a luggage rack, etc., the bike rack would only consist of straight poles that extend directly from the body frame. Manufacturers could build these things into all roof frames and then just bury some of them under the roof panel and charge extra to have them accessible for people who don't want to cut holes in their cars' roofs to gain access to the bike rack built into the frame.
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Any pictures or drawings of modern cars with "structural longitudinal beams" in the roof/chassis that would function as the base for poles that could extend and retract from the roof and safely support a bicycle? Or is that feature only found in the props of a movie or screenplay to be released at some date after you become head of design at an automobile manufacturer?
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Seriously, majority of people are not cyclists and have no use for a bike racks. Car manufacturers would also have to charge extra. Re-designing a vehicle frame to have a permanent retractable rack is not as simple and as cheap as you think.
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All the drawings, designs and technical info for those racks can be found in TPs imagination.
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Any pictures or drawings of modern cars with "structural longitudinal beams" in the roof/chassis that would function as the base for poles that could extend and retract from the roof and safely support a bicycle? Or is that feature only found in the props of a movie or screenplay to be released at some date after you become head of design at an automobile manufacturer?
Look at the roof frame above the doors. Poles could be situated within or alongside those 'beams' in the chassis/frame and extended out so that the ends go just past the trunk. For additional support, other beams could extend upward (or flip upward) from the rear of the vehicle that connect with the ones extending from the roof. Then, you pick up your bike and hang the frame on the parts of the poles extending past the support poles coming up from the trunk.
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Look at the roof frame above the doors. Poles could be situated within or alongside those 'beams' in the chassis/frame and extended out so that the ends go just past the trunk. For additional support, other beams could extend upward (or flip upward) from the rear of the vehicle that connect with the ones extending from the roof. Then, you pick up your bike and hang the frame on the parts of the poles extending past the support poles coming up from the trunk.
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Engineers don't have the final say on whether anything is physically or mechanically possible. That's nature. Engineers might reject an idea for business reasons and attribute the rejection to mechanical non-feasibility. You have too much faith in people to be honest, either intellectually, socially, or just with themselves about their motives.
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Engineers don't have the final say on whether anything is physically or mechanically possible. That's nature. Engineers might reject an idea for business reasons and attribute the rejection to mechanical non-feasibility. You have too much faith in people to be honest, either intellectually, socially, or just with themselves about their motives.
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Good engineers will tell you whether or not an idea will work. They'll even get excited about it if they think it's an interesting concept ... even if it is completely unrelated to whatever they're currently working on.
Of course, that's just my experience after spending a lot of years working with engineers.
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My uncle always said this. He was one of the head bean counters at GM, and he said it with regret. He predicted the bankruptcy of GM long before it happened, and said it would be the fault of the bean counters who didn't listen to the engineers and marketers.
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I too predicted the bankruptcy of GM in 1994, after GM took me to court because I refused to pay for them fixing it as I believed it should have been covered by the warranty. I had a 1 year old 1992 diesel truck and the fuel injection died on it, they said it was my fault, water in the fuel.... I came out of the courthouse and the GM guy was parked right next to my new FORD and I said to him as I polished the blue oval, "GM is going to go bankrupt because of people like me who will stop buying GM because of people like you"... And the rest is history...
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i don't understand why people talk about axi like they are some heavy mover. Taxi service in Rowlett is only for moving from one place to another or you can book it for some professional work. It is not about moving your bike etc.
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As someone who leaves a bike in my car I'd absolutely hate paying for a bike rack I'd never use. I think roof racks would be too tall for many people/vehicles. Also it's too obvious of a target for thieves. What you're describing seems to be a straight rod that pops up and requires another means of securing the bike, . I think the current cargo rack system on most SUVs that allows choice between various racks is the most versatile and appeals to the most customers. My parents just got a hitch bike rack, because they don't have to deal with lifting a bike over their heads with their diminishing strength. Actually now that I think about it many cars have hidden bolt holes to attach roof racks to now a days, and I support those because they give buyers multiple options at the very minimal cost of a few bolt holes and hinged plastic cover...
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I use a Tern Joe to get around most times. Public transport just barely allows the size of the 27.5 wheels. With car rides in emergencies/bad weather, it can pop right into the trunk without too much fuss (except the economy small cars with tiny trunks). I can't say enough about this bike which I still have. Folding bikes aren't as rigid, but for commuting/touring, they work very well.
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That's what I use, can't tell you how many times the rack on the bus had 2 bikes in them and if you have a regular bike the driver won't let you on the bus due to it being too crowded. I picked up a Dahon speed p8 used for 200 put on some schwalbe marathon plus tires and never looked back, there were times even on the train when the racks were full.......I fold up my bike and put it right next to me so far no problems.
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