2009/2010 Co-Motion Espresso value
04-27-23, 10:24 AM
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2009/2010 Co-Motion Espresso value
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A friend of a friend is offloading a few bikes. He has a Co-Motion Espresso in my size. Looks to be a 2009 or 2010 model with a SRAM Rival groupset (2009?), a Reynolds carbon fork, and Ritchey seatpost/bars/saddle (not sure on the wheels, but he said it's basic aluminum clinchers). He says it's condition is a 9 out of 10, as he had it built for his wife but she hardly rode it. I know they're a custom builder out of Oregon and supposedly make great tandems, but I'd like to know if anyone has an opinion regarding their "single" (aka, non-tandem) bikes... What would be a fair price and/or what would you pay? Sorry, no pics yet. Thanks in advance!
A friend of a friend is offloading a few bikes. He has a Co-Motion Espresso in my size. Looks to be a 2009 or 2010 model with a SRAM Rival groupset (2009?), a Reynolds carbon fork, and Ritchey seatpost/bars/saddle (not sure on the wheels, but he said it's basic aluminum clinchers). He says it's condition is a 9 out of 10, as he had it built for his wife but she hardly rode it. I know they're a custom builder out of Oregon and supposedly make great tandems, but I'd like to know if anyone has an opinion regarding their "single" (aka, non-tandem) bikes... What would be a fair price and/or what would you pay? Sorry, no pics yet. Thanks in advance!
04-27-23, 10:34 AM
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Co-Motion is just as good at making singles as tandems. Very highly respected builder.
A current Espresso frameset goes for $2570 whereas a complete bike starts at $4850:
https://co-motion.com/products/espresso
Your 2009/10 is probably a rim brake version versus the current disc brake version in the above link.
Fair price and what would I pay? Depends on how badly I want that particular bike. For a complete bike, half of new or thereabouts is a good place to start.
A current Espresso frameset goes for $2570 whereas a complete bike starts at $4850:
https://co-motion.com/products/espresso
Your 2009/10 is probably a rim brake version versus the current disc brake version in the above link.
Fair price and what would I pay? Depends on how badly I want that particular bike. For a complete bike, half of new or thereabouts is a good place to start.
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Co-Motion is just as good at making singles as tandems. Very highly respected builder.
A current Espresso frameset goes for $2570 whereas a complete bike starts at $4850:
https://co-motion.com/products/espresso
Your 2009/10 is probably a rim brake version versus the current disc brake version in the above link.
Fair price and what would I pay? Depends on how badly I want that particular bike. For a complete bike, half of new or thereabouts is a good place to start.
A current Espresso frameset goes for $2570 whereas a complete bike starts at $4850:
https://co-motion.com/products/espresso
Your 2009/10 is probably a rim brake version versus the current disc brake version in the above link.
Fair price and what would I pay? Depends on how badly I want that particular bike. For a complete bike, half of new or thereabouts is a good place to start.
04-28-23, 03:25 PM
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Nice deal!
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Thanks! Y'all think it'll be too much if I went with a red/white saddle and red/white bar tape? I already have the saddle below in my stockpiles and was thinking of getting bar tape like the one below from Ciclovation. What do the fine tastemakers of bikeforums say?
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The people at Co-Motion are really cool. They have the touch-up paint for the bike's colors and even have a nice headtube badge that I just ordered. This should class up the bike too...
05-04-23, 10:36 AM
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Thinking of going with bar-end shifters on this bike... Which bar-end shifters would work? Do I need stick with the SRAM versions? Thanks...
05-12-23, 04:37 PM
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OK, she's all done... Went with classic black Brooks tape, a black Specialized saddle, and some Vittoria Corsa gunwall tires I had lying around. All new cables, housing, and a chain. The older Rival stuff actually shifts the front derailleur pretty well. Frame rides beautifully and feels responsive and comfy. Some pics...
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Very cool bike I've never heard of 'til now. You got a helluva deal, well done.
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I just went back and looked at close-ups of the welds. Amazingly clean and tidy welds for sure. Also just noticed the multi-hue spokes, another neat touch.
05-18-23, 12:22 PM
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Yup, they're actually titanium spokes! Never ridden on them before but they definitely smooth out the ride. Running 700x25s for now. Would be even more plush with 28s. And there's plenty of room for wider tires.
05-18-23, 12:32 PM
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A number of years ago, I toured the main facility and I almost picked up an Americano. Back then, a complete bike was about (IIRC) $2700. Went to their facility, was introduced to the basic departments, met with the design folks, and took a couple of models for a spin around the nearby roads. Opted to not go with one, but I was impressed. Nowadays, they do various drive trains, including Roholff and Pinion transmissions.
With their current offerings, if I were to go with one today it might well be the Pangea with a Pinion P1.18 drive train. Though, with that and custom geometry and paint, it'd be a good triple the old $2700 price for a decent Americano. Ah, well. Progress.
Congratulations on the new ride. I'm sure you'll like it.
05-18-23, 02:35 PM
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$500 is a darned good price, for a Co-Motion.
A number of years ago, I toured the main facility and I almost picked up an Americano. Back then, a complete bike was about (IIRC) $2700. Went to their facility, was introduced to the basic departments, met with the design folks, and took a couple of models for a spin around the nearby roads. Opted to not go with one, but I was impressed. Nowadays, they do various drive trains, including Roholff and Pinion transmissions.
With their current offerings, if I were to go with one today it might well be the Pangea with a Pinion P1.18 drive train. Though, with that and custom geometry and paint, it'd be a good triple the old $2700 price for a decent Americano. Ah, well. Progress.
Congratulations on the new ride. I'm sure you'll like it.
A number of years ago, I toured the main facility and I almost picked up an Americano. Back then, a complete bike was about (IIRC) $2700. Went to their facility, was introduced to the basic departments, met with the design folks, and took a couple of models for a spin around the nearby roads. Opted to not go with one, but I was impressed. Nowadays, they do various drive trains, including Roholff and Pinion transmissions.
With their current offerings, if I were to go with one today it might well be the Pangea with a Pinion P1.18 drive train. Though, with that and custom geometry and paint, it'd be a good triple the old $2700 price for a decent Americano. Ah, well. Progress.
Congratulations on the new ride. I'm sure you'll like it.
07-07-23, 11:17 AM
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Updated tires to Pirelli P Zero Race in 700x28 size (the Vittoria's were 700x25). Noticed an immediate increase in comfort. Plus, I think the darker sidewalls look better... Still have plenty of clearance left over too.
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