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No gear markings on SRAM Eagle 12 speed shifter?

Old 06-24-22, 08:02 AM
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OP....what I found useful on a bent is to shift the rear to the biggest cog when approaching a stop. If unsure, I dismount at the light and look. Also, with practice one can get a bent rolling and started in a big gear but it takes a lot of balance practice
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Old 06-24-22, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Herzlos View Post
So why don't the higher end systems have it? It doesn't strike me as something particularly expensive to do, and whilst not everyone will use them all of the time it wouldn't hurt. They seem standard on everything about Alivio and under, so I'm assuming it's a conscious decision by manufacturers not to.
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The new XT and SLX shifters I bought last year came with removable gear indicators. So apparently Shimano thinks some people want one.

As far as why not include them….

One reason has already been suggested (essentially uncool)

But also, they can screw with placement on the bar with a brake lever. I would not be able to set up mine the way I want with the gear indicator still attached.

But the latter need not apply to gripshifters.
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Old 06-24-22, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Kapusta View Post
As far as why not include them….One reason has already been suggested (essentially uncool)
If they were that concerned about "coolness," they wouldn't make Gripshift at all.
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Old 06-26-22, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GhostRider62 View Post
Because that would kill sales.
Why? Would people seriously not buy a shifter because it had an indicator on it?
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Old 06-26-22, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Herzlos View Post
Why? Would people seriously not buy a shifter because it had an indicator on it?
I would not. 100%
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Old 06-26-22, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Herzlos View Post
Why? Would people seriously not buy a shifter because it had an indicator on it?
Some people wouldn't. Gear indicators are associated with cheap components, and many cyclists think it looks noobish.
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Old 06-26-22, 01:55 PM
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Noob = Fred
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Old 06-26-22, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HTupolev View Post
Some people wouldn't. Gear indicators are associated with cheap components, and many cyclists think it looks noobish.
Yeah, Shimano XT are cheap components
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Old 06-26-22, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kapusta View Post
Yeah, Shimano XT are cheap components
Current-gen XT (M8100) does not have gear indicators. Previous-gen XT (M8000) only included the indicators on the non-i-spec model, and they were specifically designed and marketed for easy removal.
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Old 06-28-22, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Ahem......
I ride a DD, and I'm with you on that, but OP doesn't and can't.
What is a 'DD'? You ride fixed gear, I think...but struggling on what DD means.
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Old 06-28-22, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by koala logs View Post
NOT a safe thing to do.
By the time you put your eyes back to the road, your front wheel is about to roll into a giant pothole or there's big truck stopped right in front of you and it's too late to evade.
Do you really never look around when you ride? You never look at another person, or at a horse, or at a sunset? You are missing out on a lot of fun if you cant manage to stop looking directly ahead for a single second.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Do you really never look around when you ride? You never look at another person, or at a horse, or at a sunset? You are missing out on a lot of fun if you cant manage to stop looking directly ahead for a single second.
I was out on a ride last year with a group of people. One of the guys turned his head to the right to talk with another guy. Hit a pot hole, went over the bars and slammed his face into the pavement. Lots of stitches, scratches and bruises. Was hauled away to the hospital.

It happens.
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Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
I was out on a ride last year with a group of people. One of the guys turned his head to the right to talk with another guy. Hit a pot hole, went over the bars and slammed his face into the pavement. Lots of stitches, scratches and bruises. Was hauled away to the hospital.
It happens.
Yes, it does happen.
Last June a car passed me with plenty of room, but honked for some reason. I turned to see why and hit a frost heave right as I turned back to look ahead. Broke 4 ribs and my clavicle. That doesnt mean I should literally never look anywhere but straight ahead all all times without fail.
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Old 06-28-22, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Do you really never look around when you ride? You never look at another person, or at a horse, or at a sunset? You are missing out on a lot of fun if you cant manage to stop looking directly ahead for a single second.
Sure I do. I can look left and right without losing forward view with peripheral vision.

Looking down and to the back, I have to pan my head down and to the back as well so I lose forward view, even with peripheral vision. That's why I avoid looking at the cassette. However, there are times I will take a look at the rear derailleur jockey wheels and cage when I'm climbing in the lowest gear just to make sure it's not getting too close to the spokes. Though I have set my "L" limit screw correctly, you can never be sure and I've read enough stories all over the internet of riders destroying their rear wheel with the rear derailleur.

It's probably only safe to look at the rear mech and cassette, etc whenever you're going slow like during climbing so with a short glance of the rear stuff, I doubt you'll miss a big pothole or a truck suddenly stopping at the side of the road.
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Old 06-28-22, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
What is a 'DD'? You ride fixed gear, I think...but struggling on what DD means.
Double diamond. No big deal, but I don't ride fixed gear, mostly I ride Shimano 600 STI.
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Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
I was out on a ride last year with a group of people. One of the guys turned his head to the right to talk with another guy. Hit a pot hole, went over the bars and slammed his face into the pavement. Lots of stitches, scratches and bruises. Was hauled away to the hospital.

It happens.

And if you never look to your side, aren't you asking for trouble at intersections? Guess we could have a verbal fight between the "always look ahead" people with the "head always on a swivel" people, with volleys of anecdotes going both ways.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Double diamond. No big deal, but I don't ride fixed gear, mostly I ride Shimano 600 STI.
Is that just a standard diamond frame or one with a double top tube?

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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Double diamond. No big deal, but I don't ride fixed gear, mostly I ride Shimano 600 STI.
Huh, I thought you did a bunch of single speed or fixed. 600sti is incredible even 30 years later- I put some on one of my kid's road bikes since it runs a 9sp drivetrain.

Ivery just called it a diamond frame. Maybe it's one of those trick pictures where you have to count the squares within the square.
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO View Post
Is that just a standard diamond frame or one with a double top tube?

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Huh, I thought you did a bunch of single speed or fixed. 600sti is incredible even 30 years later- I put some on one of my kid's road bikes since it runs a 9sp drivetrain.

Ivery just called it a diamond frame. Maybe it's one of those trick pictures where you have to count the squares within the square.
Should we just settle on calling it the safety bicycle?
If you Google it, there's a sizeable proportion of people who call it the diamond frame, the double diamond frame, and the double triangle frame. TBH, I just use double diamond so people think I'm talking about Dunkin Donuts when I abbreviate it.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
TBH, I just use double diamond so people think I'm talking about Dunkin Donuts when I abbreviate it.
You’re such a Homer.

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