Where can I find this hub cone?
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Where can I find this hub cone?
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I need a replacement hub cone for the front wheel hub of the Shimano WH-R560 road wheel. I spent the last couple of months looking for it all over the local bike shops without success. This is in Toronto, so I thought that it would be easy to find this part, but it's not so apparently.
Would anyone know where I could find this part? Perhaps some online shop that ships to Canada?
The following is a diagram with Shimano part numbers. The hub cone comes as a part of the lock nut unit assembly and the part number is Y-4C4 98020.
https://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830608668.pdf
I need a replacement hub cone for the front wheel hub of the Shimano WH-R560 road wheel. I spent the last couple of months looking for it all over the local bike shops without success. This is in Toronto, so I thought that it would be easy to find this part, but it's not so apparently.
Would anyone know where I could find this part? Perhaps some online shop that ships to Canada?
The following is a diagram with Shimano part numbers. The hub cone comes as a part of the lock nut unit assembly and the part number is Y-4C4 98020.
https://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830608668.pdf
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It is unlikely any LBS anywhere will have that particular part in stock so here are couple of possibilities:
1. See if your LBS can order it from QBP, Shimano or another supplier.
2. Contact Shimano directly and see if they can supply the cone to you or your LBS: Shimano Canada, LTD. (877) 377-5211
3. Find a generic cone close to the stock part in length and use spacers to get the spacing correct. The R560 front wheel uses normal 3/16" balls and, as long as the threading matches, any similar cone should work.
1. See if your LBS can order it from QBP, Shimano or another supplier.
2. Contact Shimano directly and see if they can supply the cone to you or your LBS: Shimano Canada, LTD. (877) 377-5211
3. Find a generic cone close to the stock part in length and use spacers to get the spacing correct. The R560 front wheel uses normal 3/16" balls and, as long as the threading matches, any similar cone should work.
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To find a generic cone for any hub you need more than the length. You typically can't go larger in diameter without altering the dust cap, or smaller without fashioning some sort of seal (o-ring, silicone seal). In addition, from looking at Shimano's diagram https://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830608668.pdf it appears the hub uses a labrinth dust seal, which makes replacement even more problematic.
Overall it's a frustrating situation for someone who does not want or can't afford to replace entire units for want of one part. 20 years or more years ago it was easier to find compatible parts or even make do with something close, but that is much more difficult now. There seems to be little interest by the manufacturers of many items to maintain any kind of cross generation compatibility, to have parts similar in specs to others, or to maintain a repair parts inventory.
Overall it's a frustrating situation for someone who does not want or can't afford to replace entire units for want of one part. 20 years or more years ago it was easier to find compatible parts or even make do with something close, but that is much more difficult now. There seems to be little interest by the manufacturers of many items to maintain any kind of cross generation compatibility, to have parts similar in specs to others, or to maintain a repair parts inventory.
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I have a friend who has that wheel and it took a month to get the cones. You might e-mail Wheels Mfg. and see if they make one.
shimano has gone nuts in the last 8 or 10 years with new and improved junk that make it hard for dealers to support it all.
shimano has gone nuts in the last 8 or 10 years with new and improved junk that make it hard for dealers to support it all.
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Check Wheels Manufacturing. They might not have the cone specific to what you need, but if you know the various measurements of the cone, you might find one that matches.
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Determine which hub it is. Tourney, claris, sora, tiagra, 105 etc and simply order a whole new hub. Use the new hub for replacement parts.
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I feel that many think cones are bad when it's just minor corrosion or slight pitting in the part of the cone the bearings will never touch.
As long as that thin shiny ring around the cone isn't pitted it's a good cone.
Oops sorry!
I feel victimized by the procurer of dead threads.
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I have the same wheel set on one bike with over 45,000 miles on them and they remain perfect.
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How about a photo of the actual cone and the damaged area.
I have done pretty well polishing out minor pits using a drill and handheld sandpaper.
I have done pretty well polishing out minor pits using a drill and handheld sandpaper.
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The hub is a 105 level with cup-and-cone bearings using 11x3/16" balls per side. However, it's specific to this Shimano pre-built wheelset and uses 12 radial laced bladed straight spokes with the nipples at the hub end. You can't replace it with a more common series hub.
I have the same wheel set on one bike with over 45,000 miles on them and they remain perfect.
I have the same wheel set on one bike with over 45,000 miles on them and they remain perfect.
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But how well would 12 year old part source recommendation hold up?
And obviously it gets a raft of other conversation going towards the OP and others in the old part of the thread that is likely meaningless.
IMO... The Necro thread reviver had a very legitimate reason to start a new thread. This way more timely and current sourcing info would be the gist of the comments and not rebuttals to the old conversation.
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I have been using fine sandpaper to light sand and smooth the pits and it helps. Unfortunately, it's getting worse. Hopping I could find a replacement cone. I will contact Wheels Mfg to see if they have a solution.
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Those are some good sized pits. Probably a bit more than I would try to sand out. Possibly cut on a lathe, but that will greatly change where the cone will sit.
It almost appears as if there is a steel ring as part of the seal that might be removable. Still, that is a pretty complex shape that may well only be available OEM, unless some MTB cones would be close enough.
If you could find a slightly oversized cone, it could be carved to shape in a matter of minutes.
It almost appears as if there is a steel ring as part of the seal that might be removable. Still, that is a pretty complex shape that may well only be available OEM, unless some MTB cones would be close enough.
If you could find a slightly oversized cone, it could be carved to shape in a matter of minutes.