Go Back  Bike Forums >
Reload this Page >

Bike Forums

Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational)

Dirt proofing your gg/cross rides

Notices
Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational) This has to be the most physically intense sport ever invented. It's high speed bicycle racing on a short off road course or riding the off pavement rides on gravel like : "Unbound Gravel". We also have a dedicated Racing forum for the Cyclocross Hard Core Racers.

Dirt proofing your gg/cross rides

Old 06-23-18, 04:49 PM
  #1  
intransit1217
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
intransit1217's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Kenosha , Wi
Posts: 1,226

Bikes: 2013 specializes secure sport, Salsa vaya, Masi giramondo

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Dirt proofing your gg/cross rides

How does one do this? What parts are most subject to water and dirt?
intransit1217 is offline  
Old 06-23-18, 04:57 PM
  #2  
tyrion
Senior Member
 
tyrion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 3,867

Bikes: Velo Orange Piolet

Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2094 Post(s)
Liked 1,720 Times in 837 Posts
You can kind of dirt proof your water bottle by putting a plastic bag over the top. Other than that, things are going to get dirty.
tyrion is offline  
Old 06-23-18, 05:11 PM
  #3  
Barrettscv 
Have bike, will travel
 
Barrettscv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Lake Geneva, WI
Posts: 12,388

Bikes: Ridley Helium SLX, Canyon Endurance SL, De Rosa Professional, Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra, Schwinn Paramount (1 painted, 1 chrome), Peugeot PX10, Serotta Nova X, Simoncini Cyclocross Special, Raleigh Roker, Pedal Force CG2 and CX2

Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 909 Post(s)
Liked 279 Times in 154 Posts
I mount a full rear fender on a nearly permanent basis and add a front fender on soaking wet days.

Last edited by Barrettscv; 06-24-18 at 04:34 AM.
Barrettscv is offline  
Old 06-23-18, 07:17 PM
  #4  
intransit1217
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
intransit1217's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Kenosha , Wi
Posts: 1,226

Bikes: 2013 specializes secure sport, Salsa vaya, Masi giramondo

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
So basically, if you do a dk200, you need a new bike. Got it!
intransit1217 is offline  
Old 06-24-18, 07:04 PM
  #5  
mstateglfr 
Sunshine
 
mstateglfr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 15,293

Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo

Mentioned: 120 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9635 Post(s)
Liked 6,021 Times in 3,464 Posts
Originally Posted by intransit1217 View Post
So basically, if you do a dk200, you need a new bike. Got it!
definitely didnt seem to me like the takeaway from those responses, but we all interpret things differently.
mstateglfr is offline  
Old 06-25-18, 07:02 AM
  #6  
Marcus_Ti
FLIR Kitten to 0.05C
 
Marcus_Ti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 5,331

Bikes: Roadie: Seven Axiom Race Ti w/Chorus 11s. CX/Adventure: Carver Gravel Grinder w/ Di2

Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2349 Post(s)
Liked 405 Times in 254 Posts
Originally Posted by intransit1217 View Post
So basically, if you do a dk200, you need a new bike. Got it!

Uh..No.

Although some of the big BDSM gravel *races* (and non-podium rides) do tend to be murder on equipment. The solution is to not worry about BDSM races, or be prepared to be buying new bearings/RDs/etc. Races always are murder on equipment, you takes your chances doing it---same as a roadie crit where you may be in a mass crash and taco a rim.
Marcus_Ti is offline  
Old 06-25-18, 08:49 AM
  #7  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 6,666
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6052 Post(s)
Liked 9,163 Times in 3,955 Posts
Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti View Post
Uh..No.

Although some of the big BDSM gravel *races* (and non-podium rides) do tend to be murder on equipment. The solution is to not worry about BDSM races, or be prepared to be buying new bearings/RDs/etc. Races always are murder on equipment, you takes your chances doing it---same as a roadie crit where you may be in a mass crash and taco a rim.
This.

If you're gonna ride it, it might get broken/worn/dirty. And when it comes to racing, only take equipment that you would be comfortable replacing, because s**t happens.

You can reduce the probability of damage by being prudent: like Marcus says, choose events judiciously, perhaps walk or carry your bike through the mudbogs (instead of riding and falling), and keep your eyes out for sketchy riders who might crash you out.

Personally, I don't worry so much about trashing equipment...I would be more concerned about physical injury. I can always buy another bike, but I'm not growing any more teeth at this point.
Koyote is offline  
Old 06-25-18, 09:20 AM
  #8  
shoota 
Senior Member
 
shoota's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Stillwater, OK
Posts: 8,007
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1817 Post(s)
Liked 629 Times in 426 Posts
The first things that come to mind: water bottles, bb cable guides, hub bearings, and bb bearings.
__________________
2014 Cannondale SuperSix EVO 2
2019 Salsa Warbird
shoota is offline  
Old 06-25-18, 09:24 AM
  #9  
cobra_kai
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 88
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 40 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I put helicopter tape on the frame where straps will be attached for things like a frame bag, gas tank, or feed bag. I also put some on the underside of the down tube and the back of the seat tube. Fenders can be a good idea for wet conditions. Other than that, just clean/lube things when you finish up and don't use parts you can't afford to replace!
cobra_kai is offline  
Old 06-25-18, 09:31 AM
  #10  
ksryder
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2,549

Bikes: yes

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1281 Post(s)
Liked 641 Times in 328 Posts
Originally Posted by intransit1217 View Post
So basically, if you do a dk200, you need a new bike. Got it!
LOL wut

Also, no, I've done the last 3 DK on my 10-year-old obsolete cantilever Specialized Tricross. I do replace chains, cassettes, chainrings, bottom brackets, and headsets a lot more frequently than my road bike, but that's because dirt acts like sandpaper and there's no way to avoid that.
ksryder is offline  
Old 06-25-18, 10:02 AM
  #11  
TimothyH
- Soli Deo Gloria -
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,782

Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix

Mentioned: 235 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6840 Post(s)
Liked 727 Times in 461 Posts
Di2 is pretty dirtproof/waterproof.

-Tim-
TimothyH is offline  
Old 06-25-18, 01:06 PM
  #12  
ph0rk
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Southern Appalachians
Posts: 453

Bikes: A hauler, a commuter, and a steamroller.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I mean, I wouldn't put something like dura ace or sram red on a bike if I couldn't afford to replace the components, but other than that just assume that like mountainbikes, gravel bikes wear through some things faster than a road bike - especially where mud and dust get all over the drivetrain. Assuming you stop when mud cakes bad and clean things regular, you should still get a couple of thousand miles out of a chain, so figure similar intervals relative to road components elsewhere.

Water bottles get trashed between seepage/condensation and grit. They'll still last a long time, but look ugly as hell.
ph0rk is offline  
Old 06-25-18, 04:03 PM
  #13  
TimothyH
- Soli Deo Gloria -
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,782

Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix

Mentioned: 235 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6840 Post(s)
Liked 727 Times in 461 Posts
1000 miles for a chain is not uncommon for me.

Derailleurs and similar components should last much longer. A chain is moving constantly. A derailleur is not shifting constantly and the pulley bearings are less exposed although they are easy to service and replace. I would be pretty upset if derailleurs lasted only a few thousand miles.

The pedals I use seem to the the next thing to wear after chains, in spite of having less exposed bearings. XT pedals have lasted less than 3000 miles before the bearings get cruncy. I have a pair off the bike now and hopefully re-greasing is all they need.


-Tim-
TimothyH is offline  
Old 06-27-18, 09:58 AM
  #14  
trailangel
Senior Member
 
trailangel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 4,809

Bikes: Schwinn Varsity

Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1897 Post(s)
Liked 683 Times in 401 Posts
Dirt proofing a dirt bike......
trailangel is offline  
Likes For trailangel:
Old 07-01-18, 05:24 AM
  #15  
intransit1217
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
intransit1217's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Kenosha , Wi
Posts: 1,226

Bikes: 2013 specializes secure sport, Salsa vaya, Masi giramondo

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
Dirt proofing a dirt bike......
point.

I called my lbs to ask about bearings in a gravel bike vs a mountain bike. They said thereís no difference in bearings unless you hand pick them. Chris King, Hope, etc. Then the materials are significantly more durable. They also said, usually a bike owner will wash the unit, then bring it in for a wash and tune up, replacing parts as needed. Cheaper throw away parts seem the better plan here. With serviceable hubs of course.

I did find some tricks. Wd 40, Pam,silicon sprays to help the gunk slough off during the ride.
intransit1217 is offline  
Likes For intransit1217:
Old 07-01-18, 06:28 AM
  #16  
Badger6
Obsessed with Eddington
 
Badger6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Brussels (BE) 🇧🇪
Posts: 1,329

Bikes: '16 Spesh Diverge, '14 Spesh Fatboy, '18 Spesh Epic, '18 Spesh SL6, '21 Spesh SL7, '21 Spesh Diverge...and maybe n+1?

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 531 Post(s)
Liked 621 Times in 368 Posts
Dirt proofing? Donít ride it. Otherwise....ride. Wash. Rinse. Repeat...often. 😂
Badger6 is offline  
Old 12-29-19, 09:05 AM
  #17  
FML123
Junior Member
 
FML123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 80

Bikes: 2018 Focus Mares CX 105 // 1984(?) Guerciotti GLX 7600 Super Record // 2021 Giant Stance 27.5” // 2022 Poseidon Redwood

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 60 Post(s)
Liked 21 Times in 13 Posts
Pam cooking spray?! That's genius!
FML123 is offline  
Old 12-29-19, 10:43 AM
  #18  
Cpn_Dunsel
Senior Member
 
Cpn_Dunsel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 168
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 124 Post(s)
Liked 134 Times in 61 Posts
PAM is canola oil and it will polymerize and turn into black goo that will gum things up. Not good to use on a decent bike. Vegetable oils < Mineral oils.
Cpn_Dunsel is offline  
Likes For Cpn_Dunsel:
Old 12-29-19, 10:51 AM
  #19  
DrIsotope
Non omnino gravis
 
DrIsotope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: SoCal, USA!
Posts: 8,553

Bikes: Nekobasu, Pandicorn, Lakitu

Mentioned: 119 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4904 Post(s)
Liked 1,728 Times in 956 Posts
Not PAM, Pledge. We've been using Pledge to keep mud from sticking to R/C chassis/bodies forever.

As to the original question, it don't matter. Ride in the dirt, it's gonna get dirty.
__________________
DrIsotope is offline  
Likes For DrIsotope:
Old 12-29-19, 06:46 PM
  #20  
Jakedatc
Senior Member
 
Jakedatc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CT
Posts: 3,054
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts
I wax my cx/gravel frame with normal car wax once in a while after washing to help things slide off a bit better. Pledge is a spray wax so kinda same thing but lighter duty. 3M clear tape where cables rub.
Jakedatc is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Teamprovicycle
General Cycling Discussion
10
04-02-19 03:46 PM
Sy Reene
Road Cycling
10
01-07-19 10:57 PM
bogydave
General Cycling Discussion
28
06-24-18 05:00 PM
GAPavedTrailRdr
Northeast
5
02-17-16 11:52 AM
Prairie Native
Road Cycling
7
06-13-10 12:31 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.